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From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix writing to the filesystem after unmount
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 18:52:39 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <818a3cc0-c17b-22c0-4413-252dfb579cca@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230906-aufkam-bareinlage-6e7d06d58e90@brauner>



On Wed, 6 Sep 2023, Christian Brauner wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 06:01:06PM +0200, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 6 Sep 2023, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > 
> > > > > IOW, you'd also hang on any umount of a bind-mount. IOW, every
> > > > > single container making use of this filesystems via bind-mounts would
> > > > > hang on umount and shutdown.
> > > > 
> > > > bind-mount doesn't modify "s->s_writers.frozen", so the patch does nothing 
> > > > in this case. I tried unmounting bind-mounts and there was no deadlock.
> > > 
> > > With your patch what happens if you do the following?
> > > 
> > > #!/bin/sh -ex
> > > modprobe brd rd_size=4194304
> > > vgcreate vg /dev/ram0
> > > lvcreate -L 16M -n lv vg
> > > mkfs.ext4 /dev/vg/lv
> > > 
> > > mount -t ext4 /dev/vg/lv /mnt/test
> > > mount --bind /mnt/test /opt
> > > mount --make-private /opt
> > > 
> > > dmsetup suspend /dev/vg/lv
> > > (sleep 1; dmsetup resume /dev/vg/lv) &
> > > 
> > > umount /opt # I'd expect this to hang
> > > 
> > > md5sum /dev/vg/lv
> > > md5sum /dev/vg/lv
> > > dmsetup remove_all
> > > rmmod brd
> > 
> > "umount /opt" doesn't hang. It waits one second (until dmsetup resume is 
> > called) and then proceeds.
> 
> So unless I'm really misreading the code - entirely possible - the
> umount of the bind-mount now waits until the filesystem is resumed with
> your patch. And if that's the case that's a bug.

Yes.

It can be fixed by changing wait_and_deactivate_super to this:

void wait_and_deactivate_super(struct super_block *s)
{
	down_write(&s->s_umount);
	while (s->s_writers.frozen != SB_UNFROZEN && atomic_read(&s->s_active) == 2) {
		up_write(&s->s_umount);
		msleep(1);
		down_write(&s->s_umount);
	}
	deactivate_locked_super(s);
}

> > > > BTW. what do you think that unmount of a frozen filesystem should properly 
> > > > do? Fail with -EBUSY? Or, unfreeze the filesystem and unmount it? Or 
> > > > something else?
> > > 
> > > In my opinion we should refuse to unmount frozen filesystems and log an
> > > error that the filesystem is frozen. Waiting forever isn't a good idea
> > > in my opinion.
> > 
> > But lvm may freeze filesystems anytime - so we'd get randomly returned 
> > errors then.
> 
> So? Or you might hang at anytime.

lvm doesn't keep logical volumes suspended for a prolonged amount of time. 
It will unfreeze them after it made updates to the dm table and to the 
metadata. So, it won't hang forever.

I think it's better to sleep for a short time in umount than to return an 
error.

Mikulas


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-06 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-06 13:26 [PATCH] fix writing to the filesystem after unmount Mikulas Patocka
2023-09-06 14:27 ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 15:03   ` Mikulas Patocka
2023-09-06 15:33     ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 15:58       ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 16:01       ` Mikulas Patocka
2023-09-06 16:19         ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-06 16:52           ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2023-09-07  9:44             ` Jan Kara
2023-09-07 10:43               ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-07 12:04                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2023-09-08  7:32                   ` Jan Kara
2023-09-08  9:29                     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2023-09-08 10:20                       ` Jan Kara
2023-09-08 12:02                         ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-08 16:49                           ` John Stoffel
2023-09-09 11:21                         ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                         ` <15c62097-d58f-4e66-bdf5-e0edb1306b2f@redhat.com>
2023-09-08 11:32                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-08 12:07                             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2023-09-08 12:34                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-09-12  9:10                           ` Jan Kara
2023-09-08 12:01                     ` Pavel Machek
2023-09-08 11:59               ` Pavel Machek
2023-09-06 17:10         ` Al Viro
2023-09-06 17:08     ` Al Viro
2023-09-06 15:22 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-09-06 15:38   ` Christian Brauner

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