From: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
"Todd Kjos" <tkjos@android.com>,
"Martijn Coenen" <maco@android.com>,
"Joel Fernandes" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
"Carlos Llamas" <cmllamas@google.com>,
"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Daniel Xu" <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/9] rust: file: add Rust abstraction for `struct file`
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2024 09:30:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <84850d04-c1cb-460d-bc4e-d5032489da0d@proton.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLghgc_z23dOR2L5vnPhVmhiKqZxR6jin9KCA5e_ii4BL3w@mail.gmail.com>
On 29.01.24 17:34, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 4:04 PM Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me> wrote:
>>> +/// closed.
>>> +/// * A light refcount must be dropped before returning to userspace.
>>> +#[repr(transparent)]
>>> +pub struct File(Opaque<bindings::file>);
>>> +
>>> +// SAFETY: By design, the only way to access a `File` is via an immutable reference or an `ARef`.
>>> +// This means that the only situation in which a `File` can be accessed mutably is when the
>>> +// refcount drops to zero and the destructor runs. It is safe for that to happen on any thread, so
>>> +// it is ok for this type to be `Send`.
>>
>> Technically, `drop` is never called for `File`, since it is only used
>> via `ARef<File>` which calls `dec_ref` instead. Also since it only contains
>> an `Opaque`, dropping it is a noop.
>> But what does `Send` mean for this type? Since it is used together with
>> `ARef`, being `Send` means that `File::dec_ref` can be called from any
>> thread. I think we are missing this as a safety requirement on
>> `AlwaysRefCounted`, do you agree?
>> I think the safety justification here could be (with the requirement added
>> to `AlwaysRefCounted`):
>>
>> SAFETY:
>> - `File::drop` can be called from any thread.
>> - `File::dec_ref` can be called from any thread.
>
> This wording was taken from rust/kernel/task.rs. I think it's out of
> scope to reword it.
Rewording the safety docs on `AlwaysRefCounted`, yes that is out of scope,
I was just checking if you agree that the current wording is incomplete.
> Besides, it says "destructor runs", not "drop runs". The destructor
> can be interpreted to mean the right thing for ARef.
To me "destructor runs" and "drop runs" are synonyms.
> The right safety comment would probably be that dec_ref can be called
> from any thread.
Yes and no, I would prefer if you could remove the "By design, ..."
part and only focus on `dec_ref` being callable from any thread and
it being ok to send a `File` to a different thread.
--
Cheers,
Benno
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-01 9:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-18 14:36 [PATCH v3 0/9] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2024-01-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] rust: file: add Rust abstraction for `struct file` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-18 22:37 ` Valentin Obst
2024-01-26 15:04 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-29 16:34 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-02-01 9:30 ` Benno Lossin [this message]
2024-02-01 9:33 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-02-01 9:38 ` Benno Lossin
2024-02-01 9:41 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-02-01 9:48 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] rust: cred: add Rust abstraction for `struct cred` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-19 9:37 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-19 9:52 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-24 9:51 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] rust: security: add abstraction for secctx Alice Ryhl
2024-01-19 9:41 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] rust: types: add `NotThreadSafe` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-19 9:43 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] rust: file: add `FileDescriptorReservation` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-19 9:48 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] rust: task: add `Task::current_raw` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-19 9:52 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] rust: file: add `Kuid` wrapper Alice Ryhl
2024-01-24 9:55 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] rust: file: add `DeferredFdCloser` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-22 17:59 ` Boqun Feng
2024-01-24 10:07 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-18 14:36 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] rust: file: add abstraction for `poll_table` Alice Ryhl
2024-01-24 10:11 ` Benno Lossin
2024-01-29 17:08 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-02-01 9:33 ` Benno Lossin
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=84850d04-c1cb-460d-bc4e-d5032489da0d@proton.me \
--to=benno.lossin@proton.me \
--cc=a.hindborg@samsung.com \
--cc=alex.gaynor@gmail.com \
--cc=aliceryhl@google.com \
--cc=arve@android.com \
--cc=bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com \
--cc=boqun.feng@gmail.com \
--cc=brauner@kernel.org \
--cc=cmllamas@google.com \
--cc=dan.j.williams@intel.com \
--cc=dxu@dxuuu.xyz \
--cc=gary@garyguo.net \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=joel@joelfernandes.org \
--cc=keescook@chromium.org \
--cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=maco@android.com \
--cc=ojeda@kernel.org \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=surenb@google.com \
--cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
--cc=tkjos@android.com \
--cc=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
--cc=wedsonaf@gmail.com \
--cc=willy@infradead.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).