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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	brauner@kernel.org, shuah@kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com,
	lokeshgidra@google.com, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
	axelrasmussen@google.com, rppt@kernel.org, willy@infradead.org,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, zhangpeng362@huawei.com,
	bgeffon@google.com, kaleshsingh@google.com, ngeoffray@google.com,
	jdduke@google.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 19:51:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85e5390c-660c-ef9e-b415-00ee71bc5cbf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRW2CBUDNks9RGQJ@x1n>

On 28.09.23 19:21, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 07:05:40PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> As described as reply to v1, without fork() and KSM, the PAE bit should
>> stick around. If that's not the case, we should investigate why.
>>
>> If we ever support the post-fork case (which the comment above remap_pages()
>> excludes) we'll need good motivation why we'd want to make this
>> overly-complicated feature even more complicated.
> 
> The problem is DONTFORK is only a suggestion, but not yet restricted.  If
> someone reaches on top of some !PAE page on src it'll never gonna proceed
> and keep failing, iiuc.

Yes. It won't work if you fork() and not use DONTFORK on the src VMA. We 
should document that as a limitation.

For example, you could return an error to the user that can just call 
UFFDIO_COPY. (or to the UFFDIO_COPY from inside uffd code, but that's 
probably ugly as well).

> 
> do_wp_page() doesn't have that issue of accuracy only because one round of
> CoW will just allocate a new page with PAE set guaranteed, which is pretty
> much self-heal and unnoticed.

Yes. But it might have to copy, at which point the whole optimization of 
remap is gone :)

> 
> So it'll be great if we can have similar self-heal way for PAE.  If not, I
> think it's still fine we just always fail on !PAE src pages, but then maybe
> we should let the user know what's wrong, e.g., the user can just forgot to
> apply DONTFORK then forked.  And then the user hits error and don't know
> what happened.  Probably at least we should document it well in man pages.
> 
Yes, exactly.

> Another option can be we keep using folio_mapcount() for pte, and another
> helper (perhaps: _nr_pages_mapped==COMPOUND_MAPPED && _entire_mapcount==1)
> for thp.  But I know that's not ideal either.

As long as we only set the pte writable if PAE is set, we're good from a 
CVE perspective. The other part is just simplicity of avoiding all these 
mapcount+swapcount games where possible.

(one day folio_mapcount() might be faster -- I'm still working on that 
patch in the bigger picture of handling PTE-mapped THP better)

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-28 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-23  1:31 [PATCH v2 0/3] userfaultfd remap option Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-23  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP: rmap preparation Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 16:23   ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 20:03     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-02 14:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 15:23     ` Peter Xu
2023-10-02 17:30       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-03 17:56         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-23  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 10:06   ` potential new userfaultfd vs khugepaged conflict [was: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI] Jann Horn
2023-09-27 17:12     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 15:29       ` Jann Horn
2023-09-27 12:47   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] userfaultfd: UFFDIO_REMAP uABI Jann Horn
2023-09-27 13:29     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-27 18:25       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 16:28         ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 17:15         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 18:32           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 20:11             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 19:00           ` Peter Xu
2023-10-02  7:49             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 16:24       ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 17:05         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-28 17:21           ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 17:51             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2023-09-28 18:34               ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 19:47                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-02  8:00                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 15:21                   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-02 15:46                     ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-02 15:55                       ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-02 17:43                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 19:33                           ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-03 20:04                             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-03 20:21                               ` Peter Xu
2023-10-03 21:08                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-03 21:20                                   ` Peter Xu
2023-10-03 22:26                                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-03 23:39                                       ` Lokesh Gidra
2023-10-06 12:30                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-06 15:02                                           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-10-03 21:04                               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 17:33                     ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-02 17:36                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-27 18:07     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 20:04       ` Jann Horn
2023-09-27 20:42         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 21:08           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-27 22:48             ` Jann Horn
2023-09-28 15:36               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 17:09   ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 18:23     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-28 18:43   ` Peter Xu
2023-09-28 19:50     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-09-23  1:31 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] selftests/mm: add UFFDIO_REMAP ioctl test Suren Baghdasaryan

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