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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 16/26] nfsd: add LOCALIO support
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 09:54:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86405a95e604281c4a14d1787bf91b02dbc2b115.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <172542610641.4433.9213915589635956986@noble.neil.brown.name>

On Wed, 2024-09-04 at 15:01 +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Sep 2024, NeilBrown wrote:
> > 
> > I agree that dropping and reclaiming a lock is an anti-pattern and in
> > best avoided in general.  I cannot see a better alternative in this
> > case.
> 
> It occurred to me what I should spell out the alternate that I DO see so
> you have the option of disagreeing with my assessment that it isn't
> "better".
> 
> We need RCU to call into nfsd, we need a per-cpu ref on the net (which
> we can only get inside nfsd) and NOT RCU to call
> nfsd_file_acquire_local().
> 
> The current code combines these (because they are only used together)
> and so the need to drop rcu. 
> 
> I thought briefly that it could simply drop rcu and leave it dropped
> (__releases(rcu)) but not only do I generally like that LESS than
> dropping and reclaiming, I think it would be buggy.  While in the nfsd
> module code we need to be holding either rcu or a ref on the server else
> the code could disappear out from under the CPU.  So if we exit without
> a ref on the server - which we do if nfsd_file_acquire_local() fails -
> then we need to reclaim RCU *before* dropping the ref.  So the current
> code is slightly buggy.
> 
> We could instead split the combined call into multiple nfs_to
> interfaces.
> 
> So nfs_open_local_fh() in nfs_common/nfslocalio.c would be something
> like:
> 
>  rcu_read_lock();
>  net = READ_ONCE(uuid->net);
>  if (!net || !nfs_to.get_net(net)) {
>        rcu_read_unlock();
>        return ERR_PTR(-ENXIO);
>  }
>  rcu_read_unlock();
>  localio = nfs_to.nfsd_open_local_fh(....);
>  if (IS_ERR(localio))
>        nfs_to.put_net(net);
>  return localio;
> 
> So we have 3 interfaces instead of 1, but no hidden unlock/lock.
> 
> As I said, I don't think this is a net win, but reasonable people might
> disagree with me.
> 

I considered a few alternate designs here as well, and came to the same
conclusion. This interface is ugly, but it's not materially worse than
the alternatives. I think we just have to document this well, and deal
with the ugliness.

Luckily most of the gory details are managed inside nfsd and the
nfs_common functions so the caller (nfs) shouldn't have to deal with
the complex locking.

One thing that might be good if we're sticking with this code, is a
__might_sleep() at the top of nfs_open_local_fh function in nfs_common.
That should help ensure that no one tries to call it with the
rcu_read_lock() held (which is the main danger here).
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-04 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-31 22:37 [PATCH v15 00/26] nfs/nfsd: add support for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 01/26] nfs_common: factor out nfs_errtbl and nfs_stat_to_errno Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 02/26] nfs_common: factor out nfs4_errtbl and nfs4_stat_to_errno Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 03/26] nfs: factor out {encode,decode}_opaque_fixed to nfs_xdr.h Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 04/26] NFSD: Handle @rqstp == NULL in check_nfsd_access() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 05/26] NFSD: Refactor nfsd_setuser_and_check_port() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 06/26] NFSD: Avoid using rqstp->rq_vers in nfsd_set_fh_dentry() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 07/26] NFSD: Short-circuit fh_verify tracepoints for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 08/26] nfsd: factor out __fh_verify to allow NULL rqstp to be passed Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 09/26] nfsd: add nfsd_file_acquire_local() Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 10/26] nfsd: add nfsd_serv_try_get and nfsd_serv_put Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 11/26] SUNRPC: remove call_allocate() BUG_ONs Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 12/26] SUNRPC: add svcauth_map_clnt_to_svc_cred_local Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 13/26] SUNRPC: replace program list with program array Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 14/26] nfs_common: add NFS LOCALIO auxiliary protocol enablement Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:25   ` NeilBrown
2024-09-03 16:33     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 19:24   ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-05 19:38     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 15/26] nfs_common: prepare for the NFS client to use nfsd_file for LOCALIO Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:37   ` NeilBrown
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 16/26] nfsd: add LOCALIO support Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:46   ` NeilBrown
2024-09-03 14:34   ` Chuck Lever
2024-09-03 14:40     ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-03 15:00       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 15:19         ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-03 15:29           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 15:59             ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-03 16:09               ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 17:07                 ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-03 22:31               ` NeilBrown
2024-09-04  5:01                 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-04 13:47                   ` Chuck Lever
2024-09-05 14:21                     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-05 15:41                       ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-05 23:34                       ` NeilBrown
2024-09-06 15:04                         ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-06 18:07                           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-06 21:56                             ` NeilBrown
2024-09-06 22:33                               ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-06 23:14                                 ` NeilBrown
2024-09-07 15:17                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-07 16:09                                     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-07 19:08                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-07 21:12                                         ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-08 15:05                                           ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-07 15:52                               ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-04 13:54                   ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2024-09-04 13:56                     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 17/26] nfsd: implement server support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-09-03 14:11   ` Chuck Lever
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 18/26] nfs: pass struct nfsd_file to nfs_init_pgio and nfs_init_commit Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 19/26] nfs: add LOCALIO support Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 20/26] nfs: enable localio for non-pNFS IO Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 21/26] pnfs/flexfiles: enable localio support Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 22/26] nfs/localio: use dedicated workqueues for filesystem read and write Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 23/26] nfs: implement client support for NFS_LOCALIO_PROGRAM Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 24/26] nfs: add Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 25/26] nfs: add FAQ section to Documentation/filesystems/nfs/localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-08-31 22:37 ` [PATCH v15 26/26] nfs: add "NFS Client and Server Interlock" section to localio.rst Mike Snitzer
2024-09-01 23:52 ` [PATCH v15 00/26] nfs/nfsd: add support for LOCALIO NeilBrown
2024-09-03 14:49 ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-06 19:31 ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-06 20:34   ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-06 21:09     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-10 16:45     ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-10 19:14       ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-10 19:24         ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-10 20:31         ` Anna Schumaker
2024-09-10 22:11           ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-11 17:51             ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-11 18:48               ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-13 18:12                 ` Mike Snitzer
2024-09-11  0:43   ` NeilBrown
2024-09-11 16:03     ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-12 23:31       ` NeilBrown
2024-09-12 23:42         ` Chuck Lever III
2024-09-13 12:27           ` Mike Snitzer

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