From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Viacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
syzbot <syzbot+7bb7cd3595533513a9e7@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
christian.brauner@ubuntu.com,
Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com,
ZhangPeng <zhangpeng362@huawei.com>,
linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
debian-ports <debian-ports@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: [syzbot] [hfs?] WARNING in hfs_write_inode
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 14:27:50 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <868611d7f222a19127783cc8d5f2af2e42ee24e4.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZLl2Fq35Ya0cNbIm@casper.infradead.org>
On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 18:59 +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 07:50:47PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > > Then we should delete the HFS/HFS+ filesystems. They're orphaned in
> > > MAINTAINERS and if distros are going to do such a damnfool thing,
> > > then we must stop them.
> >
> > Both HFS and HFS+ work perfectly fine. And if distributions or users are so
> > sensitive about security, it's up to them to blacklist individual features
> > in the kernel.
> >
> > Both HFS and HFS+ have been the default filesystem on MacOS for 30 years
> > and I don't think it's justified to introduce such a hard compatibility
> > breakage just because some people are worried about theoretical evil
> > maid attacks.
> >
> > HFS/HFS+ mandatory if you want to boot Linux on a classic Mac or PowerMac
> > and I don't think it's okay to break all these systems running Linux.
>
> If they're so popular, then it should be no trouble to find somebody
> to volunteer to maintain those filesystems. Except they've been
> marked as orphaned since 2011 and effectively were orphaned several
> years before that (the last contribution I see from Roman Zippel is
> in 2008, and his last contribution to hfs was in 2006).
I suspect that this is one of those catch-22 situations: distros are
going to enable every feature under the sun. That doesn't mean that
anyone is actually _using_ them these days.
Is "staging" still a thing? Maybe we should move these drivers into the
staging directory and pick a release where we'll sunset it, and then see
who comes out of the woodwork?
Cheers,
--
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-20 18:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-04 14:24 [syzbot] [hfs?] WARNING in hfs_write_inode syzbot
2023-01-04 14:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-04 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-04 22:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-04 22:42 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-05 0:36 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2023-01-05 4:37 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2023-01-05 15:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-05 16:45 ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2023-07-20 15:27 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-07-20 17:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-20 17:50 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-07-20 17:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-20 18:27 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2023-07-20 22:20 ` Dave Chinner
2023-07-21 1:03 ` Finn Thain
2023-07-21 1:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-21 1:25 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-07-21 1:45 ` Finn Thain
2023-07-21 6:42 ` Kirsten Bromilow
2023-07-21 8:14 ` Finn Thain
2023-07-21 13:10 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-20 21:38 ` Jeffrey Walton
2023-07-20 22:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-20 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-21 1:28 ` Mike Hosken
2023-07-20 17:56 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-07-20 19:05 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-07-21 5:07 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-07-21 5:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-01-05 21:34 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-01-05 21:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-05 23:46 ` Michael Schmitz
2023-01-06 7:09 ` Michael Schmitz
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