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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Viacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	syzbot <syzbot+7bb7cd3595533513a9e7@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	christian.brauner@ubuntu.com,
	Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com,
	ZhangPeng <zhangpeng362@huawei.com>,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
	debian-ports <debian-ports@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: [syzbot] [hfs?] WARNING in hfs_write_inode
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 14:27:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <868611d7f222a19127783cc8d5f2af2e42ee24e4.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZLl2Fq35Ya0cNbIm@casper.infradead.org>

On Thu, 2023-07-20 at 18:59 +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 07:50:47PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > > Then we should delete the HFS/HFS+ filesystems.  They're orphaned in
> > > MAINTAINERS and if distros are going to do such a damnfool thing,
> > > then we must stop them.
> > 
> > Both HFS and HFS+ work perfectly fine. And if distributions or users are so
> > sensitive about security, it's up to them to blacklist individual features
> > in the kernel.
> > 
> > Both HFS and HFS+ have been the default filesystem on MacOS for 30 years
> > and I don't think it's justified to introduce such a hard compatibility
> > breakage just because some people are worried about theoretical evil
> > maid attacks.
> > 
> > HFS/HFS+ mandatory if you want to boot Linux on a classic Mac or PowerMac
> > and I don't think it's okay to break all these systems running Linux.
> 
> If they're so popular, then it should be no trouble to find somebody
> to volunteer to maintain those filesystems.  Except they've been
> marked as orphaned since 2011 and effectively were orphaned several
> years before that (the last contribution I see from Roman Zippel is
> in 2008, and his last contribution to hfs was in 2006).

I suspect that this is one of those catch-22 situations: distros are
going to enable every feature under the sun. That doesn't mean that
anyone is actually _using_ them these days.

Is "staging" still a thing? Maybe we should move these drivers into the
staging directory and pick a release where we'll sunset it, and then see
who comes out of the woodwork?

Cheers,
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-20 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-04 14:24 [syzbot] [hfs?] WARNING in hfs_write_inode syzbot
2023-01-04 14:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-04 19:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-04 22:33     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-04 22:42       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-01-05  0:36       ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2023-01-05  4:37         ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2023-01-05 15:46           ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-05 16:45             ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2023-07-20 15:27               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-07-20 17:30                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-20 17:50                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-07-20 17:59                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-20 18:27                       ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2023-07-20 22:20                         ` Dave Chinner
2023-07-21  1:03                           ` Finn Thain
2023-07-21  1:11                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-21  1:25                               ` Michael Schmitz
2023-07-21  1:45                               ` Finn Thain
2023-07-21  6:42                               ` Kirsten Bromilow
2023-07-21  8:14                               ` Finn Thain
2023-07-21 13:10                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-07-20 21:38                       ` Jeffrey Walton
2023-07-20 22:37                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-07-20 22:53                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-07-21  1:28                             ` Mike Hosken
2023-07-20 17:56                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-07-20 19:05                     ` Michael Schmitz
2023-07-21  5:07                       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2023-07-21  5:40                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-01-05 21:34       ` Michael Schmitz
2023-01-05 21:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-01-05 23:46           ` Michael Schmitz
2023-01-06  7:09             ` Michael Schmitz

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