linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Chandan Babu R <chandan.babu@oracle.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 01/11] timekeeping: move multigrain timestamp floor handling into timekeeper
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:13:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bk050xb9.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240914-mgtime-v8-1-5bd872330bed@kernel.org>

On Sat, Sep 14 2024 at 13:07, Jeff Layton wrote:

> For multigrain timestamps, we must keep track of the latest timestamp
> that has ever been handed out, and never hand out a coarse time below
> that value.

How is that correct when the clock is off by an hour and then set back
to the correct value? Then you'd get the same stale timestamp for an
hour unless something invokes ktime_get_real_ts64_mg() which will set
the "latest" timestamp back to a time before the previous one.

> Add a static singleton atomic64_t into timekeeper.c that we can use to
> keep track of the latest fine-grained time ever handed out. This is
> tracked as a monotonic ktime_t value to ensure that it isn't affected by
> clock jumps.

That's just wishful thinking.

ktime_get_real_ts64_mg(ts)
   ts = Tmono_1 + offset_1;   // TReal_1
   floor = Tmono_1;

                                // newtime < TReal_1                                
                                clock_settime(REALTIME, newtime);
                                   xtime = newtime; // TReal_2
                                   offset_2 = offset_1 + Treal_2 - TReal(now);
                                   --> offset_2 < offset_1

ktime_get_coarse_real_ts64_mg(ts)
    ts = tk_xtime();       // TReal_2
    offs = offset_2;

    if (Tmono_1 + offset_2 > ts)
       ts = Tmono_1 + offset_2; // Not taken

So this returns T_Real_2 because

    offset_2 < offset_1

and therefore

    Tmono_1 + offset_2 < TReal_2

so the returned time will jump backwards vs. TReal_1 as it should
because that's the actual time, no?

So if that's the intended behaviour then the changelog is misleading at
best.

If the intention is to never return a value < TReal_1 then this does not
work. You can make it work by using the Realtime timestamp as floor, but
that'd be more than questionable vs. clock_settime() making the clock go
backwards.

Thanks,

        tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-30 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-14 17:07 [PATCH v8 00/11] fs: multigrain timestamp redux Jeff Layton
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 01/11] timekeeping: move multigrain timestamp floor handling into timekeeper Jeff Layton
2024-09-14 20:10   ` John Stultz
2024-09-14 23:14     ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-16 10:12   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-16 10:32     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-16 10:57       ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-30 19:16         ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-30 19:37           ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-30 20:19             ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-30 20:53               ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-30 21:35                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  9:45                   ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-01 12:45                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-02 12:41                       ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-19 16:50     ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-30 19:43       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-30 20:12         ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-30 19:13   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2024-09-30 19:27     ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-30 20:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 02/11] fs: add infrastructure for multigrain timestamps Jeff Layton
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 03/11] fs: have setattr_copy handle multigrain timestamps appropriately Jeff Layton
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 04/11] fs: handle delegated timestamps in setattr_copy_mgtime Jeff Layton
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 05/11] fs: tracepoints around multigrain timestamp events Jeff Layton
2024-09-15  8:21   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 06/11] fs: add percpu counters for significant " Jeff Layton
2024-09-16 10:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 07/11] Documentation: add a new file documenting multigrain timestamps Jeff Layton
2024-09-16  1:01   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-09-19 16:53     ` Jeff Layton
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 08/11] xfs: switch to " Jeff Layton
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 09/11] ext4: " Jeff Layton
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 10/11] btrfs: convert " Jeff Layton
2024-09-14 17:07 ` [PATCH v8 11/11] tmpfs: add support for " Jeff Layton
2024-09-26 16:59 ` [PATCH v8 00/11] fs: multigrain timestamp redux Randy Dunlap

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87bk050xb9.ffs@tglx \
    --to=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=adilger.kernel@dilger.ca \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=brauner@kernel.org \
    --cc=chandan.babu@oracle.com \
    --cc=chuck.lever@oracle.com \
    --cc=clm@fb.com \
    --cc=corbet@lwn.net \
    --cc=djwong@kernel.org \
    --cc=dsterba@suse.com \
    --cc=hughd@google.com \
    --cc=jack@suse.cz \
    --cc=jlayton@kernel.org \
    --cc=josef@toxicpanda.com \
    --cc=jstultz@google.com \
    --cc=linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
    --cc=mhiramat@kernel.org \
    --cc=rdunlap@infradead.org \
    --cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
    --cc=sboyd@kernel.org \
    --cc=tytso@mit.edu \
    --cc=vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev \
    --cc=viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).