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From: Luis Henriques <luis@igalia.com>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	 linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
	 "Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	 John Groves <John@groves.net>,
	 Bernd Schubert <bernd@bsbernd.com>,
	 Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.de>,
	 lsf-pc <lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Where is fuse going? API cleanup, restructuring and more
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2026 10:15:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cy2myvyu.fsf@wotan.olymp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxjEdJHjbfCFM364V=tBrEyczYvzo-b-Xo0UPOCA2cnPGQ@mail.gmail.com> (Amir Goldstein's message of "Mon, 2 Feb 2026 17:14:37 +0100")

On Mon, Feb 02 2026, Amir Goldstein wrote:

> [Fixed lsf-pc address typo]
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2026 at 2:51 PM Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
>>
>> I propose a session where various topics of interest could be
>> discussed including but not limited to the below list
>>
>> New features being proposed at various stages of readiness:
>>
>>  - fuse4fs: exporting the iomap interface to userspace
>>
>>  - famfs: export distributed memory
>>
>>  - zero copy for fuse-io-uring
>>
>>  - large folios
>>
>>  - file handles on the userspace API
>>
>>  - compound requests
>>
>>  - BPF scripts
>>
>> How do these fit into the existing codebase?
>>
>> Cleaner separation of layers:
>>
>>  - transport layer: /dev/fuse, io-uring, viriofs
>>
>>  - filesystem layer: local fs, distributed fs
>>
>> Introduce new version of cleaned up API?
>>
>>  - remove async INIT
>>
>>  - no fixed ROOT_ID
>>
>>  - consolidate caching rules
>>
>>  - who's responsible for updating which metadata?
>>
>>  - remove legacy and problematic flags
>>
>>  - get rid of splice on /dev/fuse for new API version?
>>
>> Unresolved issues:
>>
>>  - locked / writeback folios vs. reclaim / page migration
>>
>>  - strictlimiting vs. large folios
>
> All important topics which I am sure will be discussed on a FUSE BoF.

I wonder if the topic I proposed separately (on restarting FUSE servers)
should also be merged into this list.  It's already a very comprehensive
list, so I'm not sure it's worth having a separate topic if most of it
will (likely) be touched here already.

What do you think?

Cheers,
-- 
Luís

> I think that at least one question of interest to the wider fs audience is
>
> Can any of the above improvements be used to help phase out some
> of the old under maintained fs and reduce the burden on vfs maintainers?
>
> Thanks,
> Amir.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-03 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <aYIsRc03fGhQ7vbS@groves.net>
2026-02-02 13:51 ` [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Where is fuse going? API cleanup, restructuring and more Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-02 16:14   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-02-03  7:55     ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-02-03  9:19       ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2026-02-03 10:31         ` Amir Goldstein
2026-02-04  9:22       ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-04 10:37         ` Amir Goldstein
2026-02-04 10:43         ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2026-02-06  6:09           ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-21  6:07             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-21  7:07               ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-21 22:16                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-02-23 21:58                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-04 20:47         ` Bernd Schubert
2026-02-06  6:26         ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-03 10:15     ` Luis Henriques [this message]
2026-02-03 10:20       ` Amir Goldstein
2026-02-03 10:38         ` Luis Henriques
2026-02-03 14:20         ` Christian Brauner
2026-02-03 10:36   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-02-03 17:13   ` John Groves
2026-02-04 19:06   ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-04 19:38     ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-02-04 20:58     ` Bernd Schubert
2026-02-06  5:47       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-04 22:50     ` Gao Xiang
2026-02-06  5:38       ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-06  6:15         ` Gao Xiang
2026-02-21  0:47           ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-03-17  4:17             ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-18 21:51               ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-03-19  8:05                 ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-22  3:25                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-03-22  3:52                   ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-22  4:51                   ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-22  5:13                     ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-03-22  5:30                       ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-23  9:54                     ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2026-03-23 10:19                       ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-23 11:14                         ` Jan Kara
2026-03-23 11:42                           ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-23 12:01                             ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-23 14:13                               ` Jan Kara
2026-03-23 14:36                                 ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-23 14:47                                   ` Jan Kara
2026-03-23 14:57                                     ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-24  8:48                                     ` Christian Brauner
2026-03-24  9:30                                       ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-24  9:49                                         ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-03-24  9:53                                           ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-24 10:02                                             ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-03-24 10:14                                               ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-24 10:17                                                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-03-24 10:25                                                   ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-24 11:58                                       ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-03-24 12:21                                         ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-26 14:39                                           ` Christian Brauner
2026-03-26 15:10                                             ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-26 16:11                                               ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-26 16:24                                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-03-26 16:37                                                   ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-23 12:08                           ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-03-23 12:13                             ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-23 12:19                               ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-03-23 12:30                                 ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-23 12:33                                   ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-22  5:14                   ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-23  9:43                     ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2026-03-23 10:05                       ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-23 10:14                         ` Jan Kara
2026-03-23 10:30                           ` Gao Xiang
2026-02-04 23:19     ` Gao Xiang
2026-02-05  3:33     ` John Groves
2026-02-05  9:27       ` Amir Goldstein
2026-02-06  5:52         ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-06 20:48           ` John Groves
2026-02-07  0:22             ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-12  4:46               ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-21  0:37                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-26 20:21                   ` Joanne Koong
2026-03-03  4:57                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-03-03 17:28                       ` Joanne Koong
2026-02-20 23:59             ` Darrick J. Wong

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