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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] fs: add infrastructure for multigrain timestamps
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:53:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frsyt5lj.fsf@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4470c858a2a9056a9a26bb48ce36dbfc52a463e2.camel@kernel.org> (Jeff Layton's message of "Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:35:47 -0400")

Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> writes:
>> 
>> Would it be of any benefit to keep a distinct ctime_floor in each
>> super block instead?
>> 
>
> Good question. Dave Chinner suggested the same thing, but I think it's
> a potential problem:
>
> The first series had to be reverted because inodes that had been
> modified in order could appear to be modified in reverse order with the
> right combination of fine and coarse grained timestamps. With the new
> floor value, that's no longer possible, but if we were to make it per-
> sb then it becomes possible again with files in different filesystems.
>
> This sort of timestamp comparison is done by tools like "make", and
> it's rather common to keep built objects in one location and generate
> or copy source files to another. My worry is that managing the floor as
> anything but a global value could cause regressions in those sorts of
> workloads.

Have you considered the interactions with time name spaces?

It seems you may need a floor for each, otherwise if the floor is set by
some name space with a more future time the other users lose out.

Also there's the issue to what happens if time gets set backwards.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-27 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-27  1:00 [PATCH 00/10] fs: multigrain timestamp redux Jeff Layton
2024-06-27  1:00 ` [PATCH 01/10] fs: turn inode ctime fields into a single ktime_t Jeff Layton
2024-07-01 22:49   ` Darrick J. Wong
2024-07-02  0:22     ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-02  7:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-02  9:56         ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-02 10:19           ` Jan Kara
2024-07-02 11:42             ` Christian Brauner
2024-07-02 11:44             ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-02 12:04               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-02 12:09                 ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-02 12:15                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-02 12:21                     ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-02 15:12                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-02 15:58                         ` Jeff Layton
2024-07-03  5:26                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-03  5:27                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-07-02 16:18                       ` Christian Brauner
2024-06-27  1:00 ` [PATCH 02/10] fs: uninline inode_get_ctime and inode_set_ctime_to_ts Jeff Layton
2024-06-27  1:00 ` [PATCH 03/10] fs: tracepoints for inode_needs_update_time " Jeff Layton
2024-06-27  1:00 ` [PATCH 04/10] fs: add infrastructure for multigrain timestamps Jeff Layton
2024-06-27 15:02   ` Chuck Lever
2024-06-27 15:35     ` Jeff Layton
2024-06-27 21:53       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2024-06-27 22:13         ` Jeff Layton
2024-06-29 10:34           ` Jeff Layton
2024-06-27  1:00 ` [PATCH 05/10] fs: add percpu counters to count fine vs. coarse timestamps Jeff Layton
2024-06-27  1:00 ` [PATCH 06/10] fs: have setattr_copy handle multigrain timestamps appropriately Jeff Layton
2024-06-27  1:00 ` [PATCH 07/10] xfs: switch to multigrain timestamps Jeff Layton
2024-06-27  1:00 ` [PATCH 08/10] ext4: " Jeff Layton
2024-06-27  1:00 ` [PATCH 09/10] btrfs: convert " Jeff Layton
2024-06-27  1:00 ` [PATCH 10/10] tmpfs: add support for " Jeff Layton

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