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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
To: "Michael Kerrisk \(man-pages\)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: mtk.manpages@gmail.com, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fcntl.2, read.2, write.2: document "Lost locks" as cause for EIO.
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 07:30:06 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h8smlaup.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <130530e8-83bc-35d3-b84c-9bee85ddee12@gmail.com>

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On Tue, Dec 19 2017, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:

> On 12/18/2017 10:45 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 18 2017, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Neil
>>>
>>> There's a piece of your patch I don't understand. Please see below.
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2017 05:19 AM, NeilBrown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If an advisory lock is lost, then read/write requests on any
>>>> affected file descriptor can return EIO - for NFSv4 at least.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  man2/fcntl.2 | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  man2/read.2  |  9 +++++++++
>>>>  man2/write.2 |  9 +++++++++
>>>>  3 files changed, 42 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/man2/fcntl.2 b/man2/fcntl.2
>>>> index 67642384154c..6e6e26f66aa0 100644
>>>> --- a/man2/fcntl.2
>>>> +++ b/man2/fcntl.2
>>>> @@ -669,6 +669,30 @@ and
>>>>  Mandatory locking is not specified by POSIX.
>>>>  Some other systems also support mandatory locking,
>>>>  although the details of how to enable it vary across systems.
>>>> +.SS Lost locks
>>>> +When an advisory lock is obtained on a networked filesystem such as
>>>> +NFS it is possible that the lock might get lost.
>>>> +This may happen due to administrative action on the server, or due to a
>>>> +network partition which lasts long enough for the server to assume
>>>
>>> What does "network partition which lasts long enough" mean?
>>> I think this perhaps needs to be clarified a little. At least,
>>> I don't understand it.
>> 
>> "network partition" is a term using the NFS RFCs for any situation that
>> that results in the server and client not being able to communicate
>> (that are partitioned, one from the other?  There is partition (wall)
>> between them?  They are in separate partitions?).
>> I can see how the meaning might not be obvious if you hadn't come across
>> it before.
>> 
>> If we change "network partition" to "loss of connectivity", would that
>> make it clear.  Is "loss of network connectivity with the server" too
>> verbose?
>
> Thanks, Neil. I've applied your patch and added the words "loss of network
> connectivity with the server".

Looks good.  Thanks!

NeilBrown

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      reply	other threads:[~2017-12-19 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-13  4:19 [PATCH] fcntl.2, read.2, write.2: document "Lost locks" as cause for EIO NeilBrown
2017-12-18 16:46 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2017-12-18 21:45   ` NeilBrown
2017-12-19  5:48     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2017-12-19 20:30       ` NeilBrown [this message]

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