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From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: goswin-v-b@web.de, bs_lists@aakef.fastmail.fm,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [fuse-devel] delta filesystem prototype
Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:58:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mybzd9nn.fsf@frosties.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1LfDHD-00077q-No@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu> (Miklos Szeredi's message of "Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:06:15 +0100")

Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> writes:

> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Bernd and I ment the following scenario:
>> 
>> /dev/sda1 /union/read-only
>> tmpfs     /union/read-write
>> 
>> with a delta-fs merging the two. Then running "echo foo >
>> /union/read-only/path/file" could be desasterous to your data.
>
> Well, if the writable branch is really meant to be a clone of the
> underlying fs, then yes.  But writable unions are _not_ clones either,
> very far from that.

The problem is that /delta-fs/path/file would suddenly be a composite
of the new file /union/read-only/path/file and any stored delta
information in /union/read-write/path/file of the old file.

In unionfs-fuse files are currently always completly copy-up-ed when
modified. There a change of /union/read-only/path/file will give the
new file if it wasn't modified or the old modified file if it was. But
never mix the two.

>> The underlying branch must not change on its own. The delta-fs could
>> change it on command but that wasn't what we where thinking of.
>
> Delta-fs could deal with changes in the underlying filesystem, in some
> cases much better than unionfs (for example if the file was renamed in
> the delta-fs, and it was later modified in the underlying fs).
>
> Thanks,
> Miklos

Ugh, no. The delta-fs has no way of knowing when a file in a branch
will be changed outside of delta-fs. And it would have to know that
before the change so it can copy-up relevant data before they change.

MfG
        Goswin

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-05 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-28 14:42 delta filesystem prototype Miklos Szeredi
2009-02-28 17:22 ` [fuse-devel] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-01  0:38   ` Bernd Schubert
2009-03-01 10:17     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-04 11:21       ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-03-04 14:12         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-05 13:06           ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-03-05 19:58             ` Goswin von Brederlow [this message]
2009-03-06  4:10               ` hooanon05
2009-03-06 12:37                 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-07  1:16                   ` hooanon05
2009-03-07  9:01                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-07  9:12                       ` hooanon05
2009-03-09 12:21                         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-09 13:35                           ` hooanon05
2009-03-09 14:22                             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-09 15:25                               ` hooanon05
2009-03-10  8:14                                 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-09 16:36                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-03-06 11:35               ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-03-06 12:50                 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-06 13:21                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-03-07  8:56                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-07  1:19                 ` hooanon05
2009-03-07  9:03                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-07  9:16                     ` hooanon05
2009-03-09 12:28                       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-09 13:36                         ` hooanon05
2009-03-09 14:25                           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-09 15:20                             ` hooanon05
2009-03-10  8:06                               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-10  8:44                                 ` hooanon05
2009-03-12  9:22                                   ` Tomas M
2009-03-12  9:40                                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-12  9:19                           ` Tomas M
2009-03-09 14:13                         ` Nikolaus Rath
2009-03-03  8:31 ` hooanon05
2009-03-03 10:59   ` [fuse-devel] " Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-03 13:11     ` hooanon05
2009-03-03 15:27       ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-03-03 15:50         ` hooanon05
2009-03-03 15:54           ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-03-03 16:02             ` hooanon05
2009-03-03 16:14               ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-03-03 16:19                 ` hooanon05
2009-03-03 16:46                   ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-03-03 17:13                     ` hooanon05
2009-03-04 11:52                       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-03-04 14:10                         ` Dave Kleikamp
2009-03-04 16:23                           ` hooanon05
2009-03-04 11:49       ` Goswin von Brederlow

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