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From: "Aneesh Kumar K. V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>
Cc: hch@infradead.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Generic name to handle and open by handle syscalls
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:57:37 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sk8tn5t2.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89DF2D17-9222-4768-9944-1477F1648B8F@sun.com>

On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 12:01:38 -0700, Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com> wrote:
> On 2010-02-19, at 02:49, Aneesh Kumar K. V wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:34:29 -0700, Andreas Dilger <adilger@sun.com>  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> What is the expected lifespan of "fh" to remain valid in the kernel?
> >> Presumably this is not just the encoding of the inode number into a
> >> buffer, or it would be too easy to forge from userspace.  That means
> >> there needs to be some unguessable state in the kernel for each file
> >> handle, that may potentially need to be kept indefinitely if there is
> >> no expiry.
> >>
> >> Will "fh" be portable between processes?  I assume that is the  
> >> intent,
> >> but good to declare the actual semantics of the syscalls before they
> >> go into the kernel.
> >
> > Life time rule and uniqueness rule should be same as the NFS file  
> > handle. My understanding is there is no expiry.
> 
> Yes, and NFS file handles can be a pain in the ass, because it means  
> inode numbers/devices/fsid should never be changed for fear of  
> breaking NFS.  I'd much rather advertise that handles have a limited  
> lifespan (e.g. at most until the server reboots, possibly sooner) so  
> that there isn't an expectation of them lasting forever.

That will make the interface not useful for applications like user
space NFS server right ?  Most of them want server to map the handle
to an inode even after a server crash right. The crash recovery might
be done in case of these network file system with the above assumptions.

-aneesh

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-22  6:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-19  5:42 [RFC PATCH] Generic name to handle and open by handle syscalls Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-02-19  5:42 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] vfs: Add name to file handle conversion support Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-02-20 18:15   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-02-22  5:15     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-02-19  5:42 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] vfs: Add open by file handle support Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-02-20 18:58   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-02-20 20:13     ` Brad Boyer
     [not found]       ` <FB88A140-C2EB-4E62-9769-D2524C874C8C@sun.com>
2010-02-22  2:46         ` Brad Boyer
2010-02-26 19:21         ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-28 17:55           ` Andreas Dilger
2010-02-28 19:00             ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-03-01 18:25               ` Oleg Drokin
2010-03-01 21:25                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-22  6:13     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-02-22  6:31       ` Dave Chinner
2010-02-26 19:24     ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-02-19  5:42 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] x86: Add new syscalls for x86_32 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-02-19  9:34 ` [RFC PATCH] Generic name to handle and open by handle syscalls Andreas Dilger
2010-02-19  9:49   ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-02-20 19:01     ` Andreas Dilger
2010-02-22  6:27       ` Aneesh Kumar K. V [this message]
2010-02-22 23:06 ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-02-23  0:56   ` James Morris
2010-02-23  8:58   ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-02-23 19:46     ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-02-24  0:49     ` Dave Chinner
2010-02-25  4:53     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-02-25 14:30       ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-02-25 15:19         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-02-25 17:55           ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-02-25 18:11             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-02-25 18:20               ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-02-25 19:05                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-02-26  9:12                   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-02-26 19:56                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
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2010-03-11 13:14 DENIEL Philippe

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