From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: Denis Vlasenko <vda@ilport.com.ua>
Cc: Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>,
Ram Gupta <ram.gupta5@gmail.com>,
mloftis@wgops.com, barryn@pobox.com, a1426z@gawab.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] VM: I have a dream...
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:23:57 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87u0brhs9u.fsf@amaterasu.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200601261713.03834.vda@ilport.com.ua> (Denis Vlasenko's message of "Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:13:03 +0200")
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Denis Vlasenko announced authoritatively:
> On Thursday 26 January 2006 00:27, Nix wrote:
>> Well, to some extent it depends on your access patterns. The backup
>> program I use (`dar') is an enormous memory hog: it happily eats 5Gb on
>> my main fileserver (an UltraSPARC, so compiling it 64-bit does away with
>> address space sizing problems). That machine has only 512Mb RAM, so
>> you'd expect the thing would be swapping to death; but the backup
>> program's locality of reference is sufficiently good that it doesn't
>> swap much at all (and that in one tight lump at the end).
>
> Totally insane proggie.
For incremental backups, it has to work out which files have been added
or removed across the whole disk; whether it stores this in temporary
files or in memory, if there's more file metadata than fits in physical
RAM, it'll be disk-bound working that out at the end no matter what you
do. And avoiding temporary files means you don't have problems with
those (growing) files landing in the backup.
(Now some of its design decisions, like the decision to represent things
like the sizes of files with a custom `infinint' class with a size of
something like 64 bytes, probably were insane. At least you can change
it at configure-time to use long longs instead, vastly reducing memory
usage to the mere 5Gb mentioned in that post...)
(Lovely feature set, shame about the memory hit.)
--
`Everyone has skeletons in the closet. The US has the skeletons
driving living folks into the closet.' --- Rebecca Ore
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-26 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-21 18:08 [RFC] VM: I have a dream Al Boldi
2006-01-21 18:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-21 18:46 ` Avi Kivity
2006-01-23 19:52 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-25 22:04 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-26 19:18 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-27 16:12 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-27 19:17 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-30 13:21 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-30 13:35 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31 15:56 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-31 16:34 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-31 23:14 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-31 16:34 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-01-31 19:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-02-01 4:06 ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-02-02 15:11 ` Alan Cox
2006-02-02 18:59 ` Al Boldi
2006-02-02 22:33 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-02-03 14:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-30 16:49 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-26 0:03 ` Jon Smirl
2006-01-26 19:48 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-22 8:16 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-22 12:33 ` Robin Holt
2006-01-23 18:03 ` Al Boldi
2006-01-23 18:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-23 19:26 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-01-23 19:40 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-23 22:26 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-22 19:55 ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-01-23 5:23 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-23 5:46 ` Chase Venters
2006-01-23 8:20 ` Barry K. Nathan
2006-01-23 13:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-23 20:21 ` Peter Chubb
2006-01-23 15:05 ` Ram Gupta
2006-01-23 15:26 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-23 16:11 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-01-23 16:50 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-24 2:08 ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-25 6:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25 9:23 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-25 9:42 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-25 15:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25 23:24 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-25 15:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-25 15:47 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-25 16:09 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-25 17:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-26 19:13 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-25 23:28 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26 1:29 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-26 5:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-01-26 5:11 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-26 14:46 ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-01-24 2:10 ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-25 22:27 ` Nix
2006-01-26 15:13 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-01-26 16:23 ` Nix [this message]
2006-01-23 20:43 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-23 22:42 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-01-24 14:36 ` Ram Gupta
2006-01-24 15:04 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-24 20:59 ` Bryan Henderson
2006-01-24 15:11 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-01-23 22:57 ` Ram Gupta
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-02-01 13:58 Al Boldi
2006-02-01 14:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2006-02-02 12:26 ` Al Boldi
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