From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
SELinux-NSA <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Initial support for user namespace owned mounts
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 19:15:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbdbd90o.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B02FBD.4040606@schaufler-ca.com> (Casey Schaufler's message of "Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:05:17 -0700")
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> writes:
> On 7/22/2015 12:32 PM, Seth Forshee wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:10:46AM -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>>> On 7/22/2015 8:56 AM, Seth Forshee wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 06:52:31PM -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>>>>> On 7/21/2015 1:35 PM, Seth Forshee wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 05:59:22PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/16/2015 4:29 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I really don't see the benefit of making up extra rules that apply to
>>>>>>>>> users outside a userns who try to access specifically a filesystem
>>>>>>>>> with backing store. They wouldn't make sense for filesystems without
>>>>>>>>> backing store.
>>>>>>>> Sure it would. For Smack, it would be the label a file would be
>>>>>>>> created with, which would be the label of the process creating
>>>>>>>> the memory based filesystem. For SELinux the rules are more a
>>>>>>>> touch more sophisticated, but I'm sure that Paul or Stephen could
>>>>>>>> come up with how to determine it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The point, looping all the way back to the beginning, where we
>>>>>>>> were talking about just ignoring the labels on the filesystem,
>>>>>>>> is that if you use the same Smack label on the files in the
>>>>>>>> filesystem as the backing store file has, we'll all be happy.
>>>>>>>> If that label isn't something user can write to, he won't be
>>>>>>>> able to write to the mounted objects, either. If there is no
>>>>>>>> backing store then use the label of the process creating the
>>>>>>>> filesystem, which will be the user, which will mean everything
>>>>>>>> will work hunky dory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, there's work involved, but I doubt there's a lot. Getting
>>>>>>>> the label from the backing store or the creating process is
>>>>>>>> simple enough.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So something like the diff below (untested)?
>>>>> I think that this is close, and quite good for someone
>>>>> who isn't very familiar with Smack. It's definitely headed
>>>>> in the right direction.
>>>>>
>>>>>> All I'm really doing is setting smk_default as you describe above and
>>>>>> then using it instead of smk_of_current() in
>>>>>> smack_inode_alloc_security() and instead of the label from the disk in
>>>>>> smack_d_instantiate().
>>>>> Let's say your backing store is a file labeled Rubble.
>>>>>
>>>>> mount -o smackfsroot=Rubble,smackfsdef=Rubble ...
>>>>>
>>>>> It is completely reasonable for a process labeled Flintstone to
>>>>> have rwxa access to a file labeled Rubble.
>>>>>
>>>>> Smack rule: Flintstone Rubble rwxa
>>>>>
>>>>> In the case of writing to an existing Rubble file, what you
>>>>> have looks fine. What's not so great is that if the Flintstone
>>>>> process creates a file, it should be labeled Flintstone. Your
>>>>> use of the smk_default, which is going to violate the principle
>>>>> of least astonishment, and break the Smack policy as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's make a minor change. Instead of using smackfsroot let's
>>>>> use smackfstransmute and a slightly different access rule:
>>>>>
>>>>> mount -o smackfstransmute=Rubble,smackfsdef=Rubble ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Smack rule: Flintstone Rubble rwxat
>>>>>
>>>>> Now the only change we have to make to the Smack code is
>>>>> that we don't want to create any files unless either the
>>>>> process is labeled Rubble or the rule allowing the creation
>>>>> has the "t" for transmute access. That should ensure that
>>>>> everything is labeled Rubble. If it isn't, someone has mucked
>>>>> with the metadata in a detectable way.
>>>> All right, that kind of makes sense, but I'm still missing some pieces.
>>>> Questions follow.
>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/fs.h b/include/linux/fs.h
>>>>>> index 32f598db0b0d..4597420ab933 100644
>>>>>> --- a/include/linux/fs.h
>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/fs.h
>>>>>> @@ -1486,6 +1486,10 @@ static inline void sb_start_intwrite(struct super_block *sb)
>>>>>> __sb_start_write(sb, SB_FREEZE_FS, true);
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +static inline bool sb_in_userns(struct super_block *sb)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + return sb->s_user_ns != &init_user_ns;
>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>
>>>>>> extern bool inode_owner_or_capable(const struct inode *inode);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/security/smack/smack_lsm.c b/security/smack/smack_lsm.c
>>>>>> index a143328f75eb..591fd19294e7 100644
>>>>>> --- a/security/smack/smack_lsm.c
>>>>>> +++ b/security/smack/smack_lsm.c
>>>>>> @@ -255,6 +255,10 @@ static struct smack_known *smk_fetch(const char *name, struct inode *ip,
>>>>>> char *buffer;
>>>>>> struct smack_known *skp = NULL;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> + /* Should never fetch xattrs from untrusted mounts */
>>>>>> + if (WARN_ON(sb_in_userns(ip->i_sb)))
>>>>>> + return ERR_PTR(-EPERM);
>>>>>> +
>>>>> Go ahead and fetch it, we'll check to make sure it's viable later.
>>>>>
>>>>>> if (ip->i_op->getxattr == NULL)
>>>>>> return ERR_PTR(-EOPNOTSUPP);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @@ -656,10 +660,14 @@ static int smack_sb_kern_mount(struct super_block *sb, int flags, void *data)
>>>>>> */
>>>>>> if (specified)
>>>>>> return -EPERM;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> /*
>>>>>> - * Unprivileged mounts get root and default from the caller.
>>>>>> + * User namespace mounts get root and default from the backing
>>>>>> + * store, if there is one. Other unprivileged mounts get them
>>>>>> + * from the caller.
>>>>>> */
>>>>>> - skp = smk_of_current();
>>>>>> + skp = (sb_in_userns(sb) && sb->s_bdev) ?
>>>>>> + smk_of_inode(sb->s_bdev->bd_inode) : smk_of_current();
>>>>>> sp->smk_root = skp;
>>>>>> sp->smk_default = skp;
>>>>> sp->smk_flags |= SMK_INODE_TRANSMUTE;
>>>> I assume that you meant skp and not sp here.
>>> Actually, neither is correct. You want to set SMK_INODE_TRANSMUTE
>>> in the smk_flags field of the root inode. That's easy:
>>>
>>> transmute = 1;
>>>
>>> and the code after "Initialize the root inode" will take care of it.
>> Yeah, that's what I've actually done.
>>
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> @@ -792,7 +800,12 @@ static int smack_bprm_secureexec(struct linux_binprm *bprm)
>>>>>> */
>>>>>> static int smack_inode_alloc_security(struct inode *inode)
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> - struct smack_known *skp = smk_of_current();
>>>>>> + struct smack_known *skp;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + if (sb_in_userns(inode->i_sb))
>>>>>> + skp = ((struct superblock_smack *)(inode->i_sb->s_security))->smk_default;
>>>>>> + else
>>>>>> + skp = smk_of_current();
>>>>> This should be left alone.
>>>>> smack_inode_init_security is where you could disallow access that doesn't
>>>>> legitimately result in a Rubble label on the file. It's something like
>>>>>
>>>>> ... after the call may = smk_access_entry(...)
>>>>> if (sb_in_userns(inode->i_sb))
>>>>> if (skp != dsp && (may & MAY_TRANSMUTE) == 0)
>>>>> return -EACCES;
>>>> I'm not getting how this covers all cases.
>>>>
>>>> So we've set the transmute flag on the root inode. Files and directories
>>>> created in the root directory get the same label, and directories also
>>>> get the transmute attribute. That's all fine.
>>>>
>>>> What about an existing directory in the filesystem that already has a
>>>> Slate label? I'm not getting what happens with this directory, or for
>>>> new files created in this directory, which also relates to my other
>>>> questions below.
>>>>
>>>> Also an aside - smk_access_entry looks weird. may is initialized to
>>>> -ENOENT, and then rule_list is searched for a rule which matches the
>>>> object and subject labels. Presumably it's possible that no rule could
>>>> be found, otherwise the prior initialization of may is pointless. If
>>>> this happens the following code treats it as though it always contains
>>>> access flags even though it might contain -ENOENT. Nothing bad actually
>>>> happens with a two's compliement representation of -ENOENT since it will
>>>> just set a bit that's already set, but it still seems like it should
>>>> have a may > 0 condition, for clarity if for no other reason.
>>> My suggested code is just wrong. I wasn't looking at the whole code,
>>> only the patch, and got myself confused. Apologies.
>>>
>>> If we want to go straight for the jugular how about this? I'm assuming
>>> that inode->i_sb->s_bdev->bd_inode is the inode of the backing store.
>> Yes.
>>
>>> static int smack_inode_permission(struct inode *inode, int mask)
>>> {
>>> struct smk_audit_info ad;
>>> int no_block = mask & MAY_NOT_BLOCK;
>>> int rc;
>>>
>>> mask &= (MAY_READ|MAY_WRITE|MAY_EXEC|MAY_APPEND);
>>> /*
>>> * No permission to check. Existence test. Yup, it's there.
>>> */
>>> if (mask == 0)
>>> return 0;
>>>
>>> + if (sb_in_userns(inode->i_sb)) &&
>>> + smk_of_inode(inode) != smk_of_inode(inode->i_sb->s_bdev->bd_inode))
>>> + return -EACCES;
>>> +
>>> /* May be droppable after audit */
>>> if (no_block)
>>> return -ECHILD;
>>> smk_ad_init(&ad, __func__, LSM_AUDIT_DATA_INODE);
>>> smk_ad_setfield_u_fs_inode(&ad, inode);
>>> rc = smk_curacc(smk_of_inode(inode), mask, &ad);
>>> rc = smk_bu_inode(inode, mask, rc);
>>> return rc;
>>> }
>> Hmm, okay. I think I've been a little confused all this time about how
>> you want to handle these unprivileged mounts.
>
> Not your problem. I'm not the most consistent of reviewers.
>
>> Originally I thought you wanted all objects in the filesystem to get the
>> same label as the backing store. That's what I tried to implement
>> originally, i.e. smk_root=smk_default=smk_of_inode(...->bd_inode), then
>> assign every object (new and existing) smk_default and completely ignore
>> the labels on disk.
>
> I want everything to have the label of the backing store, but
> I don't want to ignore it if it somehow got something else. Because
> the only legitimate label for this example is Rubble, I want to
> reject anything else that appears. If someone builds a filesystem
> by hand with Slate labels I want it treated "safely".
>
>> This is what I currently think you want for user ns mounts:
>>
>> 1. smk_root and smk_default are assigned the label of the backing
>> device.
>> 2. s_root is assigned the transmute property.
>> 3. For existing files:
>> a. Files with the same label as the backing device are accessible.
>> b. Files with any other label are not accessible.
>
> That's right. Accept correct data, reject anything that's not right.
>
>> If this is right, there are a couple lingering questions in my mind.
>>
>> First, what happens with files created in directories with the same
>> label as the backing device but without the transmute property set? The
>> inode for the new file will initially be labeled with smk_of_current(),
>> but then during d_instantiate it will get smk_default and thus end up
>> with the label we want. So that seems okay.
>
> Yes.
>
>> The second is whether files with the SMACK64EXEC attribute is still a
>> problem. It seems it is, for files with the same label as the backing
>> store at least. I think we can simply skip the code that reads out this
>> xattr and sets smk_task for user ns mounts, or else skip assigning the
>> label to the new task in bprm_set_creds. The latter seems more
>> consistent with the approach you've suggested for dealing with labels
>> from disk.
>
> Yes, I think that skipping the smk_fetch(XATTR_NAME_SMACKEXEC, ...) in
> smack_d_instantiate for unprivileged mounts would do the trick.
>
>> So I guess all of that seems okay, though perhaps a bit restrictive
>> given that the user who mounted the filesystem already has full access
>> to the backing store.
>
> In truth, there is no reason to expect that the "user" who did the
> mount will ever have a Smack label that differs from the label of
> the backing store. If what we've got here seems restrictive, it's
> because you've got access from someone other than the "user".
>
>> Please let me know whether or not this matches up with what you are
>> thinking, then I can procede with the implementation.
>
> My current mindset is that, if you're going to allow unprivileged
> mounts of user defined backing stores, this is as safe as we can
> make it.
That actually sounds very reasonable to me. It is essentially what we
do with uid and gids already. I presume the smack namespace support
would when integrated with all of this would allow a set of labels to be
set.
Have I missed a part of the conversation you talk about fileystems that
don't have support for storing labels? Filesystems like vfat, isofs,
etc.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-23 0:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-15 19:46 [PATCH 0/7] Initial support for user namespace owned mounts Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 1/7] fs: Add user namesapace member to struct super_block Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 2:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-05 21:03 ` Seth Forshee
2015-08-05 21:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-06 14:20 ` Seth Forshee
2015-08-06 14:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-08-06 15:44 ` Seth Forshee
2015-08-06 16:11 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-08-07 14:16 ` Seth Forshee
2015-08-07 14:32 ` Seth Forshee
2015-08-07 18:35 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-08-07 18:57 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 2/7] userns: Simpilify MNT_NODEV handling Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 3/7] fs: Ignore file caps in mounts from other user namespaces Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 21:48 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-15 21:50 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-15 22:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 1:14 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 1:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 13:06 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 1:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 4:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 4:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 5:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 5:15 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 5:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 13:13 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-17 0:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-29 16:04 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-29 16:18 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 4/7] fs: Treat foreign mounts as nosuid Seth Forshee
2015-07-17 6:46 ` Nikolay Borisov
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 5/7] security: Restrict security attribute updates for userns mounts Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 6/7] selinux: Ignore security labels on user namespace mounts Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 13:23 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-22 16:02 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-22 16:14 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-22 20:25 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-22 20:40 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-23 13:57 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-23 14:39 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-23 15:36 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-23 16:23 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-24 15:11 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-30 15:57 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-30 16:24 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 19:46 ` [PATCH 7/7] smack: Don't use security labels for " Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 20:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-15 20:36 ` [PATCH 0/7] Initial support for user namespace owned mounts Casey Schaufler
2015-07-15 21:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-15 21:48 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-15 22:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 1:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 2:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 13:12 ` Stephen Smalley
2015-07-15 23:04 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-15 22:39 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 1:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 2:54 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 4:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-17 0:09 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-17 0:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-17 2:47 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-21 17:37 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-22 7:56 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-22 14:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-22 16:52 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-07-22 17:41 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-23 1:51 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-23 13:19 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-07-23 23:48 ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-18 0:07 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-20 17:54 ` Colin Walters
2015-07-16 11:16 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-17 0:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-17 10:13 ` Lukasz Pawelczyk
2015-07-16 3:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-16 13:59 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 15:09 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 18:57 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-16 21:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 22:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16 23:08 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 23:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 0:45 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-17 0:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 14:28 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-07-17 14:56 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-21 20:35 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-22 1:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-22 15:56 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-22 18:10 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-22 19:32 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-23 0:05 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-23 0:15 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2015-07-23 5:15 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-23 21:48 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-28 20:40 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-30 16:18 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-30 17:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-30 17:25 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-30 17:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-17 13:21 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-17 17:14 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-16 15:59 ` Seth Forshee
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-30 4:24 Amir Goldstein
2015-07-30 13:55 ` Seth Forshee
2015-07-30 14:47 ` Amir Goldstein
2015-07-30 15:33 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-07-30 15:52 ` Colin Walters
2015-07-30 16:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-30 13:57 ` Serge Hallyn
2015-07-30 15:09 ` Amir Goldstein
2015-07-31 8:11 Amir Goldstein
2015-07-31 19:56 ` Casey Schaufler
2015-08-01 17:01 ` Amir Goldstein
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