From: Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@fastmail.fm>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>, Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 04/19] fuse: Add fuse-io-uring design documentation
Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 14:50:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8e756ed6-3b12-4afa-ad6a-94e9a56fd4be@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240529211746.GD2182086@perftesting>
On 5/29/24 23:17, Josef Bacik wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 08:00:39PM +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote:
>> Signed-off-by: Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>
>> ---
>> Documentation/filesystems/fuse-io-uring.rst | 167 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 1 file changed, 167 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/filesystems/fuse-io-uring.rst b/Documentation/filesystems/fuse-io-uring.rst
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..4aa168e3b229
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/Documentation/filesystems/fuse-io-uring.rst
>> @@ -0,0 +1,167 @@
>> +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
>> +
>> +===============================
>> +FUSE Uring design documentation
>> +==============================
>> +
>> +This documentation covers basic details how the fuse
>> +kernel/userspace communication through uring is configured
>> +and works. For generic details about FUSE see fuse.rst.
>> +
>> +This document also covers the current interface, which is
>> +still in development and might change.
>> +
>> +Limitations
>> +===========
>> +As of now not all requests types are supported through uring, userspace
>
> s/userspace side/userspace/
>
>> +side is required to also handle requests through /dev/fuse after
>> +uring setup is complete. These are especially notifications (initiated
>
> especially is an awkward word choice here, I'm not quite sure what you're trying
> say here, perhaps
>
> "Specifically notifications (initiated from the daemon side), interrupts and
> forgets"
Yep, thanks a lot! I removed forgets", these should be working over the ring
in the mean time.
>
> ?
>
>> +from daemon side), interrupts and forgets.
>> +Interrupts are probably not working at all when uring is used. At least
>> +current state of libfuse will not be able to handle those for requests
>> +on ring queues.
>> +All these limitation will be addressed later.
>> +
>> +Fuse uring configuration
>> +========================
>> +
>> +Fuse kernel requests are queued through the classical /dev/fuse
>> +read/write interface - until uring setup is complete.
>> +
>> +In order to set up fuse-over-io-uring userspace has to send ioctls,
>> +mmap requests in the right order
>> +
>> +1) FUSE_DEV_IOC_URING ioctl with FUSE_URING_IOCTL_CMD_RING_CFG
>> +
>> +First the basic kernel data structure has to be set up, using
>> +FUSE_DEV_IOC_URING with subcommand FUSE_URING_IOCTL_CMD_RING_CFG.
>> +
>> +Example (from libfuse)
>> +
>> +static int fuse_uring_setup_kernel_ring(int session_fd,
>> + int nr_queues, int sync_qdepth,
>> + int async_qdepth, int req_arg_len,
>> + int req_alloc_sz)
>> +{
>> + int rc;
>> +
>> + struct fuse_ring_config rconf = {
>> + .nr_queues = nr_queues,
>> + .sync_queue_depth = sync_qdepth,
>> + .async_queue_depth = async_qdepth,
>> + .req_arg_len = req_arg_len,
>> + .user_req_buf_sz = req_alloc_sz,
>> + .numa_aware = nr_queues > 1,
>> + };
>> +
>> + struct fuse_uring_cfg ioc_cfg = {
>> + .flags = 0,
>> + .cmd = FUSE_URING_IOCTL_CMD_RING_CFG,
>> + .rconf = rconf,
>> + };
>> +
>> + rc = ioctl(session_fd, FUSE_DEV_IOC_URING, &ioc_cfg);
>> + if (rc)
>> + rc = -errno;
>> +
>> + return rc;
>> +}
>> +
>> +2) MMAP
>> +
>> +For shared memory communication between kernel and userspace
>> +each queue has to allocate and map memory buffer.
>> +For numa awares kernel side verifies if the allocating thread
>
> This bit is awkwardly worded and there's some spelling mistakes. Perhaps
> something like this?
>
> "For numa aware kernels, the kernel verifies that the allocating thread is bound
> to a single core, as the kernel has the expectation that only a single thread
> accesses a queue, and for numa aware memory allocation the core of the thread
> sending the mmap request is used to identify the numa node"
Thank you, updated. I actually consider to reduce this to a warning (will try
to add an async FUSE_WARN request type for this and others). Issue is that
systems cannot set up fuse-uring when a core is disabled.
>
>> +is bound to a single core - in general kernel side has expectations
>> +that only a single thread accesses a queue and for numa aware
>> +memory alloation the core of the thread sending the mmap request
>> +is used to identify the numa node.
>> +
>> +The offsset parameter has to be FUSE_URING_MMAP_OFF to identify
> ^^^^ "offset"
Fixed.
>
>> +it is a request concerning fuse-over-io-uring.
>> +
>> +3) FUSE_DEV_IOC_URING ioctl with FUSE_URING_IOCTL_CMD_QUEUE_CFG
>> +
>> +This ioctl has to be send for every queue and takes the queue-id (qid)
> ^^^^ "sent"
>
>> +and memory address obtained by mmap to set up queue data structures.
>> +
>> +Kernel - userspace interface using uring
>> +========================================
>> +
>> +After queue ioctl setup and memory mapping userspace submits
>
> This needs a comma, so
>
> "After queue ioctl setup and memory mapping, userspace submites"
>
>> +SQEs (opcode = IORING_OP_URING_CMD) in order to fetch
>> +fuse requests. Initial submit is with the sub command
>> +FUSE_URING_REQ_FETCH, which will just register entries
>> +to be available on the kernel side - it sets the according
>
> s/according/associated/ maybe?
>
>> +entry state and marks the entry as available in the queue bitmap.
Or maybe like this?
Initial submit is with the sub command FUSE_URING_REQ_FETCH, which
will just register entries to be available in the kernel.
>> +
>> +Once all entries for all queues are submitted kernel side starts
>> +to enqueue to ring queue(s). The request is copied into the shared
>> +memory queue entry buffer and submitted as CQE to the userspace
>> +side.
>> +Userspace side handles the CQE and submits the result as subcommand
>> +FUSE_URING_REQ_COMMIT_AND_FETCH - kernel side does completes the requests
>
> "the kernel completes the request"
Yeah, now I see the bad grammar myself. Updated to
Once all entries for all queues are submitted, kernel starts
to enqueue to ring queues. The request is copied into the shared
memory buffer and submitted as CQE to the daemon.
Userspace handles the CQE/fuse-request and submits the result as
subcommand FUSE_URING_REQ_COMMIT_AND_FETCH - kernel completes
the requests and also marks the entry available again. If there are
pending requests waiting the request will be immediately submitted
to the daemon again.
Thank you very much for your help to phrase this better!
Bernd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-30 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-29 18:00 [PATCH RFC v2 00/19] fuse: fuse-over-io-uring Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/19] fuse: rename to fuse_dev_end_requests and make non-static Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 21:09 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/19] fuse: Move fuse_get_dev to header file Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 21:09 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/19] fuse: Move request bits Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 21:10 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/19] fuse: Add fuse-io-uring design documentation Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 21:17 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-30 12:50 ` Bernd Schubert [this message]
2024-05-30 14:59 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/19] fuse: Add a uring config ioctl Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 21:24 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-30 12:51 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-03 13:03 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-03 13:48 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/19] Add a vmalloc_node_user function Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 15:10 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-30 16:13 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-31 13:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-03 15:59 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-03 19:24 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-04 4:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-07 2:30 ` Dave Chinner
2024-06-07 4:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-04 4:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/19] fuse uring: Add an mmap method Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 15:37 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/19] fuse: Add the queue configuration ioctl Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 15:54 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-30 17:49 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/19] fuse: {uring} Add a dev_release exception for fuse-over-io-uring Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 19:00 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/19] fuse: {uring} Handle SQEs - register commands Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 19:55 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/19] fuse: Add support to copy from/to the ring buffer Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 19:59 ` Josef Bacik
2024-09-01 11:56 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-09-01 11:56 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/19] fuse: {uring} Add uring sqe commit and fetch support Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 20:08 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/19] fuse: {uring} Handle uring shutdown Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 20:21 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/19] fuse: {uring} Allow to queue to the ring Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 20:32 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-30 21:26 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/19] export __wake_on_current_cpu Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 20:37 ` Josef Bacik
2024-06-04 9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-06-04 9:36 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-04 19:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-09-01 12:07 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-31 13:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/19] fuse: {uring} Wake requests on the the current cpu Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 16:44 ` Shachar Sharon
2024-05-30 16:59 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/19] fuse: {uring} Send async requests to qid of core + 1 Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/19] fuse: {uring} Set a min cpu offset io-size for reads/writes Bernd Schubert
2024-05-29 18:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 19/19] fuse: {uring} Optimize async sends Bernd Schubert
2024-05-31 16:24 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-31 17:36 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-31 19:10 ` Jens Axboe
2024-06-01 16:37 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 7:07 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/19] fuse: fuse-over-io-uring Amir Goldstein
2024-05-30 12:09 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 15:36 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-30 16:02 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 16:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-30 16:17 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 17:30 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-30 19:09 ` Josef Bacik
2024-05-30 20:05 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-31 3:53 ` [PATCH] fs: sys_ringbuffer() (WIP) Kent Overstreet
2024-05-31 13:11 ` kernel test robot
2024-05-31 15:49 ` kernel test robot
2024-05-30 16:21 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/19] fuse: fuse-over-io-uring Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 16:32 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-05-30 17:26 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 17:16 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-30 17:28 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 17:58 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-30 18:48 ` Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 19:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-05-31 0:11 ` Jens Axboe
2024-06-04 23:45 ` Ming Lei
2024-05-30 20:47 ` Josef Bacik
2024-06-11 8:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-11 10:26 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-11 15:35 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-11 17:37 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-11 23:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-12 13:53 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 14:19 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-12 15:40 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 15:55 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-12 16:15 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 16:24 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-06-12 16:44 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 7:39 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-12 13:32 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 13:46 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-06-12 14:07 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-06-12 14:56 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-02 23:03 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-29 22:32 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-30 13:12 ` Jens Axboe
2024-08-30 13:28 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-30 13:33 ` Jens Axboe
2024-08-30 14:55 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-08-30 15:10 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-30 20:08 ` Jens Axboe
2024-08-31 0:02 ` Bernd Schubert
2024-08-31 0:49 ` Bernd Schubert
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