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From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: Improve read ahead size for rotational devices
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 07:45:00 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8fd9ffe6-9228-40b6-bfdd-b8a281942075@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq1zfe7xv9s.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com>

On 6/17/25 6:24 AM, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
> 
> Hi Damien!
> 
>> Modify blk_apply_bdi_limits() to use a device max_sectors limit to
>> calculate the ra_pages field of struct backing_dev_info, when the
>> device is a rotational one (BLK_FEAT_ROTATIONAL feature is set).
> 
> I much prefer doing it here. I don't think overriding io_opt in SCSI is
> appropriate. Applications and filesystems need to be able to determine
> whether a SCSI device reports an optimal I/O size or not. Overloading
> the queue limit with readahead semantics does not belong in SCSI.
> 
>> For a SCSI disk, this defaults to 2560 KB, which significantly improve
>> performance for buffered reads.
> 
> I believe this number came from a common RAID stripe configuration at
> the time. However, it's really not a great default and has caused
> problems with many devices that expect a power of two. Personally, I'd
> like this default to be something like 2MB or 4MB. MD, DM, and most
> hardware RAID devices report their stripe width correctly so the
> existing "RAID-friendly" default really shouldn't be needed.

That sounds good. Recently, I have been doing a lot of performance benchmarks
with large IOs on HDDs (2, 4 8 and 16 MB IOs). And with the improved memory
allocation these days (transparent huge pages), even a simple malloc() IO
buffer can have far less memory segments that the HBA maximum a majority of the
time. So doing such large I/Os is fairly easy and really improves HDD
performance. And in that context, the current default 1280 value for
max_sectors_kb is really a limiting factor. So I am all for increasing the
default to something like 4MB. I will send a patch.

> Anyway. That's orthogonal to this particular change...
> 
> Reviewed-by: Martin K. Petersen <martin.petersen@oracle.com>

Thanks.


-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-16 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-16  6:28 [PATCH] block: Improve read ahead size for rotational devices Damien Le Moal
2025-06-16 21:24 ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-06-16 22:45   ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2025-06-17  5:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-17  5:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-17  6:58 ` John Garry
2025-07-29  7:58 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-07-29 12:27 ` Jens Axboe

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