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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: brauner@kernel.org, djwong@kernel.org, cem@kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ojaswin@linux.ibm.com,
	ritesh.list@gmail.com, martin.petersen@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 05/10] xfs: Iomap SW-based atomic write support
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 14:57:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9337105f-d35a-4985-ad21-bf0c36c8fd50@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z9GRg-X76T-7rshv@infradead.org>

On 12/03/2025 13:52, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 09:00:52AM +0000, John Garry wrote:
>>> How is -EAGAIN going to work here given that it is also used to defer
>>> non-blocking requests to the caller blocking context?
>>
>> You are talking about IOMAP_NOWAIT handling, right?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> If so, we handle that in
>> xfs_file_dio_write_atomic(), similar to xfs_file_dio_write_unaligned(), i.e.
>> if IOMAP_NOWAIT is set and we get -EAGAIN, then we will return -EAGAIN
>> directly to the caller.
> 
> Can you document this including the interaction between the different
> cases of -EAGAIN somewhere?

Sure

We do the same for dio write unaligned - but that already has a big 
comment explaining the retry mechanism.

> 
>>> What is the probem with only setting the flag that causes REQ_ATOMIC
>>> to be set from the file system instead of forcing it when calling
>>> iomap_dio_rw?
>>
>> We have this in __iomap_dio_rw():
>>
>> 	if (dio_flags & IOMAP_DIO_ATOMIC_SW)
>> 		iomi.flags |= IOMAP_ATOMIC_SW;
>> 	else if (iocb->ki_flags & IOCB_ATOMIC)
>>   		iomi.flags |= IOMAP_ATOMIC_HW;
>>
>> I do admit that the checks are a bit uneven, i.e. check vs
>> IOMAP_DIO_ATOMIC_SW and IOCB_ATOMIC
>>
>> If we want a flag to set REQ_ATOMIC from the FS then we need
>> IOMAP_DIO_BIO_ATOMIC, and that would set IOMAP_BIO_ATOMIC. Is that better?
> 
> My expectation from a very cursory view is that iomap would be that
> there is a IOMAP_F_REQ_ATOMIC that is set in ->iomap_begin and which
> would make the core iomap code set REQ_ATOMIC on the bio for that
> iteration.

but we still need to tell ->iomap_begin about IOCB_ATOMIC, hence 
IOMAP_DIO_BIO_ATOMIC which sets IOMAP_BIO_ATOMIC.

We can't allow __iomap_dio_rw() check IOCB_ATOMIC only (and set 
IOMAP_BIO_ATOMIC), as this is the common path for COW and regular atomic 
write

> 
>>> Also how you ensure this -EAGAIN only happens on the first extent
>>> mapped and you doesn't cause double writes?
>>
>> When we find that a mapping does not suit REQ_ATOMIC-based atomic write,
>> then we immediately bail and retry with FS-based atomic write. And that
>> check should cover all requirements for a REQ_ATOMIC-based atomic write:
>> - aligned
>> - contiguous blocks, i.e. the mapping covers the full write
>>
>> And we also have the check in iomap_dio_bit_iter() to ensure that the
>> mapping covers the full write (for REQ_ATOMIC-based atomic write).
> 
> Ah, I guess that's the
> 
> 	if (bio_atomic && length != iter->len)
> 		return -EINVAL;
> 
> So yes, please adda comment there that this is about a single iteration
> covering the entire write.

ok, fine.

Thanks,
John

> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-12 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-10 18:39 [PATCH v5 00/10] large atomic writes for xfs with CoW John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] xfs: Pass flags to xfs_reflink_allocate_cow() John Garry
2025-03-12  7:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:19     ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] xfs: Switch atomic write size check in xfs_file_write_iter() John Garry
2025-03-12  7:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:21     ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] xfs: Refactor xfs_reflink_end_cow_extent() John Garry
2025-03-12  7:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:27     ` John Garry
2025-03-12  8:35       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 15:46         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-12 22:06           ` John Garry
2025-03-12 23:22             ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-13  1:25           ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-13  4:51             ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-13  6:11               ` John Garry
2025-03-18  0:43                 ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-13  7:21               ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-22  5:19                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] xfs: Reflink CoW-based atomic write support John Garry
2025-03-12  7:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  9:13     ` John Garry
2025-03-12 13:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 14:48         ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] xfs: Iomap SW-based " John Garry
2025-03-12  7:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  9:00     ` John Garry
2025-03-12 13:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 14:57         ` John Garry [this message]
2025-03-12 15:55           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 16:11             ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] xfs: Add xfs_file_dio_write_atomic() John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] xfs: Commit CoW-based atomic writes atomically John Garry
2025-03-12  7:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  9:04     ` John Garry
2025-03-12 13:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 15:01         ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] xfs: Update atomic write max size John Garry
2025-03-11 14:40   ` Carlos Maiolino
2025-03-12  7:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:09     ` John Garry
2025-03-12  8:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:14         ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] xfs: Allow block allocator to take an alignment hint John Garry
2025-03-12  7:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12  8:05     ` John Garry
2025-03-12 13:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 14:47         ` John Garry
2025-03-12 16:00         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-03-12 16:28           ` John Garry
2025-03-10 18:39 ` [PATCH RFC v5 10/10] iomap: Rename ATOMIC flags again John Garry
2025-03-12  7:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-12 23:59     ` Dave Chinner
2025-03-13  6:28       ` John Garry
2025-03-13  7:02         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13  7:41           ` John Garry
2025-03-13  7:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13  7:53               ` John Garry
2025-03-13  8:09                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13  8:18                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-03-13  8:24                     ` John Garry
2025-03-13  8:28                     ` Christoph Hellwig

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