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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: "J. R. Okajima" <hooanon05@yahoo.co.jp>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, valerie.aurora@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sds@tycho.nsa.gov,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: copy-up xattr (Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/73] Union Mount [ver #2])
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 15:22:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9343.1332771770@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18418.1330238913@jrobl>

J. R. Okajima <hooanon05@yahoo.co.jp> wrote:

> >  (4) Added some code to override the credentials around upper inode
> >      creation to make sure the inode gets the right UID/GID.  This doesn't
> >      help if the lower inode has some sort of foreign user identifier.
> >
> >      Also, I'm not sure whether the LSM xattrs should be blindly copied up.
> >      Should the LSM policies applicable to the lower fs's apply to the upper
> >      fs too?
> 
> Obviously the xattr entry may not have its meanings on the upper fs,

True.  I'm not sure what's the best way to deal with that.  Possibly add an
extra flag to vfs_setxattr() and have the fs vet them...  OTOH, this gives us
files on the lowerfs that may well differ in appearance to files on the
upperfs with respect to their xattrs.

> or the upper fs may return an error when setting the xattr. Additionally the
> returned errno may not follow the generic semantics (ENOTSUP, ENOSPC, or
> EDQUOT) since the fs may return fs-specific error.

Also true.  It's possible that the best way is just to ignore everything but a
medium-related error such as EIO, ENOSPC and EDQUOT: We tried...  Oh well.

> On the other hand, users may expect that the all xattrs are copied-up,
> particulary when he knows that the xattrs works well on the upper fs too.
> In copy-up, it will be hard to support all cases.

Yeah.  Ideally, the copied-up file would be indistinguishable from the lower
file, but in practice that's not possible unless inode numbers and other
physical characteristics of the lower file are recorded in the upper fs (say
on an xattr).

> In order to leave users how to handle the xattrs, I'd suggest
> introducing some mount options, which are similar to cp(1).
> cp(1) has several options
> 	--preserve=mode,ownership,timestamps,context,links,xattr,all
> 	('mode' includes acl which are based upon xattr)
> 
> Since the mode (without acl), ownership and timestamps should always be
> copied-up, the new mount options will be something like
> 	cpup-xattr=acl,context,all

I would suggest 'cpyup' or 'copyup' rather than 'cpup' - the latter looks like
something to do with CPUs, but yes, it's worth considering.

> And only when the option is specfied, the xattrs are copied up. No
> special error handling is necessary, all the errors should be returned
> to users unconditionally.

That's not necessarily good enough.  What if and LSM, say SELinux, is in
force?  Now SELinux will happily label the files for you - but there's a
reasonable chance they won't be correct.  OTOH, they may not be correct even
if they are copied up.

> Does union-mount preserve mtime? If not, it is critical for some
> applications such like "make" I am afraid.

Ummm...  Interesting question.  If it copies up a file, then that file must
have been opened for writing.  Is the mtime altered by such an event, or only
by a write() having been issued?  Also, what about ctime?  That doesn't seem
to have been copied up either.

David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-26 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-21 17:57 [RFC][PATCH 00/73] Union Mount [ver #2] David Howells
2012-02-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 01/73] VFS: Make chown() and lchown() call fchownat() " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 02/73] VFS: Make clone_mnt()/copy_tree()/collect_mounts() return errors " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 03/73] VFS: Comment mount following code " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:57 ` [PATCH 04/73] VFS: Make lookup_hash() return a struct path " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:58 ` [PATCH 05/73] VFS: Pass mount flags to sget() " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:58 ` [PATCH 06/73] VFS: Split inode_permission() " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:58 ` [PATCH 07/73] VFS: Add hard read-only users count to superblock " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:58 ` [PATCH 08/73] VFS: Add CL_NO_SHARED flag to clone_mnt()/copy_tree() " David Howells
2012-02-29  6:56   ` Ram Pai
2012-02-21 17:58 ` [PATCH 09/73] VFS: Add CL_NO_SLAVE " David Howells
2012-02-29  6:58   ` Ram Pai
2012-02-21 17:58 ` [PATCH 10/73] VFS: Add CL_MAKE_HARD_READONLY " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:58 ` [PATCH 11/73] whiteout/NFSD: Don't return information about whiteouts to userspace " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:58 ` [PATCH 12/73] whiteout: Define flags and operations for opaque inodes " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:59 ` [PATCH 13/73] whiteout: Add vfs_whiteout() and whiteout inode operation " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:59 ` [PATCH 14/73] whiteout: Allow removal of a directory with whiteouts " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:59 ` [PATCH 15/73] tmpfs: Add whiteout support " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:59 ` [PATCH 16/73] VFS: Basic fallthru definitions " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:59 ` [PATCH 17/73] tmpfs: Add fallthru support " David Howells
2012-02-21 17:59 ` [PATCH 18/73] union-mount: Union mounts documentation " David Howells
2012-02-27  2:57   ` Randy Dunlap
2012-02-21 17:59 ` [PATCH 19/73] union-mount: Introduce MNT_UNION and MS_UNION flags " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:00 ` [PATCH 20/73] union-mount: Add CONFIG_UNION_MOUNT option " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:00 ` [PATCH 21/73] union-mount: Create union_stack structure " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:00 ` [PATCH 22/73] union-mount: Add two superblock fields for union mounts " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:00 ` [PATCH 23/73] union-mount: Add union_alloc() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:00 ` [PATCH 24/73] union-mount: Add union_find_dir() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:00 ` [PATCH 25/73] union-mount: Create d_free_unions() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:00 ` [PATCH 26/73] union-mount: Free union stack on removal of topmost dentry from dcache " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:00 ` [PATCH 27/73] union-mount: Create union_add_dir() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:01 ` [PATCH 28/73] union-mount: Add union_create_topmost_dir() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:01 ` [PATCH 29/73] union-mount: Create IS_MNT_UNION() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:01 ` [PATCH 30/73] union-mount: Create needs_lookup_union() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:01 ` [PATCH 31/73] union-mount: Create check_topmost_union_mnt() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:01 ` [PATCH 32/73] union-mount: Add clone_union_tree() and put_union_sb() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:01 ` [PATCH 33/73] unionmount: Mark lower layers in union " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:01 ` [PATCH 34/73] union-mount: Create build_root_union() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:01 ` [PATCH 35/73] union-mount: Create prepare_mnt_union() and cleanup_mnt_union() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:02 ` [PATCH 36/73] union-mount: Prevent improper union-related remounts " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:02 ` [PATCH 37/73] union-mount: Prevent topmost file system from being mounted elsewhere " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:02 ` [PATCH 38/73] union-mount: Prevent bind mounts of union mounts " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:02 ` [PATCH 39/73] union-mount: Duplicate the i_{, dir_}mutex lock classes and use for upper layer " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:02 ` [PATCH 40/73] union-mount: Implement union mount " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:02 ` [PATCH 41/73] union-mount: Temporarily disable some syscalls " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:02 ` [PATCH 42/73] union-mount: Basic infrastructure of __lookup_union() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:02 ` [PATCH 43/73] union-mount: Process negative dentries in " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:03 ` [PATCH 44/73] union-mount: Return files found in lower layers " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:03 ` [PATCH 45/73] union-mount: Build union stack " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:03 ` [PATCH 46/73] union-mount: Follow mount " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:03 ` [PATCH 47/73] union-mount: Add lookup_union_locked() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:03 ` [PATCH 48/73] union-mount: Add wrapper for lookup_union_locked() and RCU hook " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:03 ` [PATCH 49/73] union-mount: Call union lookup functions in lookup path " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:03 ` [PATCH 50/73] union-mount: Create whiteout on unlink() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:03 ` [PATCH 51/73] union-mount: Create whiteout on rmdir() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:03 ` [PATCH 52/73] union-mount: Set opaque flag on new directories in unioned file systems " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:04 ` [PATCH 53/73] union-mount: Copy up directory entries on first readdir() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:04 ` [PATCH 54/73] union-mount: Add generic_readdir_fallthru() helper " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:04 ` [PATCH 55/73] fallthru: tmpfs support for lookup of d_type/d_ino in fallthrus " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:04 ` [PATCH 56/73] union-mount: In-kernel file copyup routines " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:04 ` [PATCH 57/73] VFS: Create user_path_nd() to lookup both parent and target " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:04 ` [PATCH 58/73] unionmount: Add LOOKUP_COPY_UP " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:04 ` [PATCH 59/73] unionmount: Override creds when copying up a file to correctly set ownership " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:05 ` [PATCH 60/73] union-mount: Implement union-aware access()/faccessat() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:05 ` [PATCH 61/73] union-mount: Make various syscalls aware (link, chmod, chown, utimes & setxattr) " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:05 ` [PATCH 62/73] union-mount: Implement union-aware rename() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:05 ` [PATCH 63/73] union-mount: Implement union-aware writable open() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:05 ` [PATCH 64/73] union-mount: Implement union-aware truncate() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:05 ` [PATCH 65/73] ext2: Add ext2_dirent_in_use() " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:05 ` [PATCH 66/73] ext2: Split ext2_add_entry() from ext2_add_link() " David Howells
2012-02-27  0:04   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-02-27  3:30     ` Andreas Dilger
2012-02-27 19:09       ` Ted Ts'o
2012-02-27 20:45         ` Andreas Dilger
2012-02-21 18:05 ` [PATCH 67/73] ext2: Remove target inode pointer from ext2_add_entry() " David Howells
2012-02-27  0:22   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-02-21 18:06 ` [PATCH 68/73] ext2: Add whiteout and opaque directory support " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:06 ` [PATCH 69/73] ext2: Add fallthru " David Howells
2012-02-27  0:33   ` Ted Ts'o
2012-02-21 18:06 ` [PATCH 70/73] fallthru: ext2 support for lookup of d_type/d_ino in fallthrus " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:06 ` [PATCH 71/73] jffs2: Add whiteout support " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:06 ` [PATCH 72/73] jffs2: Add fallthru " David Howells
2012-02-21 18:06 ` [PATCH 73/73] fallthru: jffs2 support for lookup of d_type/d_ino in fallthrus " David Howells
2012-02-26  6:48 ` copy-up xattr (Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/73] Union Mount [ver #2]) J. R. Okajima
2012-03-26 14:22 ` David Howells [this message]
2012-03-27  4:38   ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]     ` <4F714463.7090508-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-27 13:10       ` David Quigley
2012-03-27 16:37         ` Casey Schaufler
2012-03-28 14:51   ` J. R. Okajima

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