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From: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: fuse-devel <fuse-devel@lists.linux.dev>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, John Groves <John@groves.net>,
	Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Bernd Schubert <bernd@bsbernd.com>,
	Horst Birthelmer <horst@birthelmer.de>,
	Luis Henriques <luis@igalia.com>
Subject: Re: [post LSFMM summary] where is fuse going?
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 11:20:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <943cb464-78f3-44a7-92a7-57a1fe4fbc10@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxhnOEkX4qnn0wHMCqWhEeAGTR9rxcw5u_oqGUovuszo0w@mail.gmail.com>



On 2026/5/12 01:18, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2026 at 5:12 PM Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
>>
>> Please let know what I missed.
>>
>> CO-MAINTAINER:  Position still open, though we formalized some
>> subsystem maintainership roles, sent MAINTAINERS patch.
>>
>> FAMFS: Let's try to find some common ground between the fuse-iomap api
>> and the famfs api.  I.e. add striping as a generic mapping method,
>> even though normal filesystems don't (currently) use it.  Using BPF is
>> a bad idea.
> 
> IMO, FAMFS sits somewhere between PASSTHROUGH and IOMAP.
> The simple nature of the maps, the fact that famfs maps are const and
> queried at file open time makes me think that famfs is much closer to
> PASSTHROUGH than it is to IOMAP (in its full capacity).
> 
> I think Joanne has mentioned that her customers have a use case for
> multi backing ids per passthrough file and I assume this would be a pretty
> simple map, so that sounds pretty darn close to famfs already.

I vaguely remembered that Joanne mentioned that mapping multiple
backing files into one FUSE inode at the end of session.

Is that the case you mentioned here? The requirement _might_ be
reasonable, but how does the entire page cache work for such cases?
Each vma can only point to exact one single real vm_file and rmap
totally relies on it.

Unless there are some more non-trivial core-MM enhancement (e.g. to
split into several vmas for each range), I don't think it's possible
for the current page cache infra. For DAX, it might be possible
since DAX has a seperate workflow.

Thanks,
Gao Xiang

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-12  3:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-11 15:12 [post LSFMM summary] where is fuse going? Miklos Szeredi
2026-05-11 16:43 ` Luis Henriques
2026-05-11 19:17   ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-05-12  8:46     ` Luis Henriques
2026-05-12  9:57       ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-05-12  9:38   ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-05-11 17:18 ` Amir Goldstein
2026-05-12  3:20   ` Gao Xiang [this message]
2026-05-12  7:53     ` Amir Goldstein
2026-05-12 10:00       ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-05-12  9:52   ` Miklos Szeredi

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