From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Kiryl Shutsemau <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
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Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/2] mm/memory: Do not populate page table entries beyond i_size
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 01:31:45 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9646894c-01ef-90b9-0c55-4bdfe3aabffd@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8fc01e1d-11b4-4f92-be43-ea21a06fcef1@redhat.com>
On Mon, 27 Oct 2025, David Hildenbrand wrote:
...
>
> Just so we are on the same page: this is not about which folio sizes we
> allocate (like what Baolin fixed) but what/how much to map.
>
> I guess this patch here would imply the following changes
>
> 1) A file with a size that is not PMD aligned will have the last (unaligned
> part) not mapped by PMDs.
>
> 2) Once growing a file, the previously-last-part would not be mapped by PMDs.
Yes, the v2 patch was so, and the v3 patch fixes it.
khugepaged might have fixed it up later on, I suppose.
Hmm, does hpage_collapse_scan_file() or collapse_pte_mapped_thp()
want a modification, to prevent reinserting a PMD after a failed
non-shmem truncation folio_split? And collapse_file() after a
successful non-shmem truncation folio_split?
Conversely, shouldn't MADV_COLLAPSE be happy to give you a PMD
if the map size permits, even when spanning EOF?
>
> Of course, we would have only mapped the last part of the file by PMDs if the
> VMA would have been large enough in the first place. I'm curious, is that
> something that is commonly done by applications with shmem files (map beyond
> eof)?
Setting aside the very common case of mapping a fraction of PAGE_SIZE
beyond EOF...
I do not know whether it's common to map a >= PAGE_SIZE fraction of
HPAGE_PMD_SIZE beyond EOF, but it has often been sensible to do so.
For example, imagine (using x86_64 numbers) a 4MiB map of a 3MiB
file on huge tmpfs, requiring two TLB entries for the whole file.
Hugh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-29 8:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-23 9:32 [PATCHv2 0/2] Fix SIGBUS semantics with large folios Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23 9:32 ` [PATCHv2 1/2] mm/memory: Do not populate page table entries beyond i_size Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23 20:49 ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-23 20:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-23 21:36 ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-24 9:26 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-26 4:54 ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-24 15:42 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-24 19:32 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2025-10-27 9:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 8:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-10-27 9:14 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-27 9:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-29 8:31 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2025-10-29 10:11 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-30 5:59 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-10-30 17:08 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23 9:32 ` [PATCHv2 2/2] mm/truncate: Unmap large folio on split failure Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23 20:56 ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-24 9:05 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-24 15:43 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 10:10 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-10-27 10:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-27 10:40 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-29 9:12 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-10-29 10:21 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-29 15:19 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-10-29 17:10 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2025-10-23 17:47 ` [PATCHv2 0/2] Fix SIGBUS semantics with large folios Darrick J. Wong
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