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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] /proc/stat: Reduce irqs counting performance overhead
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 17:41:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b4208b7-f97b-047c-4dab-15bd3791e7de@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190107223214.GZ6311@dastard>

On 01/07/2019 05:32 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 10:12:56AM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
>> As newer systems have more and more IRQs and CPUs available in their
>> system, the performance of reading /proc/stat frequently is getting
>> worse and worse.
> Because the "roll-your-own" per-cpu counter implementaiton has been
> optimised for low possible addition overhead on the premise that
> summing the counters is rare and isn't a performance issue. This
> patchset is a direct indication that this "summing is rare and can
> be slow" premise is now invalid.
>
> We have percpu counter infrastructure that trades off a small amount
> of addition overhead for zero-cost reading of the counter value.
> i.e. why not just convert this whole mess to percpu_counters and
> then just use percpu_counter_read_positive()? Then we just don't
> care how often userspace reads the /proc file because there is no
> summing involved at all...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.

Yes, percpu_counter_read_positive() is cheap. However, you still need to
pay the price somewhere. In the case of percpu_counter, the update is
more expensive.

I would say the percentage of applications that will hit this problem is
small. But for them, this problem has some significant performance overhead.

Cheers,
Longman

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-07 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-07 15:12 [PATCH 0/2] /proc/stat: Reduce irqs counting performance overhead Waiman Long
2019-01-07 15:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] /proc/stat: Extract irqs counting code into show_stat_irqs() Waiman Long
2019-01-07 21:42   ` Kees Cook
2019-01-07 15:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] /proc/stat: Add sysctl parameter to control irq counts latency Waiman Long
2019-01-07 15:58   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-07 16:07     ` Waiman Long
2019-01-07 16:14       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-01-07 16:19         ` Waiman Long
2019-01-07 16:33     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2019-01-07 16:59       ` Waiman Long
     [not found]   ` <20190118084456.GA10690@shao2-debian>
2019-01-21 20:02     ` [LKP] [/proc/stat] 3047027b34: reaim.jobs_per_min -4.8% regression Kees Cook
2019-01-21 21:25       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2019-01-07 22:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] /proc/stat: Reduce irqs counting performance overhead Dave Chinner
2019-01-07 22:41   ` Daniel Colascione
2019-01-07 23:49     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2019-01-07 22:41   ` Waiman Long [this message]
2019-01-08  2:04     ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-08 16:11       ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-08 17:05         ` Waiman Long
2019-01-08 17:32           ` Waiman Long
2019-01-08 16:58       ` Waiman Long
2019-01-08 22:27         ` Dave Chinner

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