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From: "NeilBrown" <neilb@suse.de>
To: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] md: stop using do_sync_mapping_range
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:51:17 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d44977545b3d447e4c7a1a84b594562.squirrel@neil.brown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090926151354.GD11623@lst.de>

On Sun, September 27, 2009 1:13 am, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 08:52:36AM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
>> On Wednesday September 23, hch@lst.de wrote:
>> > It's a very awkward way to write out all data and wait for it, so just
>> > call filemap_write_and_wait.  I still can't figure what the point of
>> > all this is, so a comment would surely be helpful.
>>
>> When md/bitmap accesses a file, it uses bmap to find addresses and then
>> submit_bh to do IO, so it completely by-passes the page cache.
>> So this code is present to ensure that the page cache has no dirty
>> pages for the file before we start using the file.
>>
>> I don't recall exactly why I used do_sync_mapping_range.  I suspect
>> that I looked at what "sys_fsync" used (do_fsync?) and found that
>> wasn't exported, so I looked at what sys_sync_file_range used, found
>> that was exported, and so used that.
>>
>> Looking at the current state of the VFS, I think I would rather use
>> vfs_fsync.
>
> Using vfs_fsync is better, but using bmap is extremly dangerous, I'm
> kinda suprised how this managed to get sneaked in without notice.  bmap
> really is just an advisory interface as the mappings by change
> underneath all the time.  Some modern filesystems like btrfs really
> can't implement it at all.
>

I used bmap because I wanted writeout characteristics similar to
swapout, and mm/swapfile.c uses bmap.  I copied the ideas from that
code.  If bmap is unsafe for bitmap files, then presumably it is
unsafe for swap files too.
This is exactly the argument that I used when Andrew Morton queried
the code on the way in.

The swap-over-NFS patches introduce a new interface to the filesystem
that supports swapout (i.e. writeout that is guaranteed not to block
on mem allocation etc).  If they ever get upstream, I will change
bitmap files to use that interface when it is present.


>
>> So would you be happy with something like the following?
>
> It's at least a small improvement..

Thanks.

NeilBrown



      reply	other threads:[~2009-09-26 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-23 13:18 [PATCH] md: stop using do_sync_mapping_range Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-23 13:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-26 15:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-23 22:52 ` Neil Brown
2009-09-26 15:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-26 21:51     ` NeilBrown [this message]

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