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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: lifetime of DCACHE_DISCONECTED dentries
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:45:03 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTim1QjTwOZ4SHdMy8Y6TOAnaOYtTwgwHXfH5H5Xn@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101115174837.GB10044-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:48 AM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:53:12PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 5:43 AM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:

>> >        - putfh: look up the filehandle.  The only alias found for the
>> >          inode will be DCACHE_UNHASHED alias referenced by the filp
>> >          associated with the nfsd open.  d_obtain_alias() doesn't like
>> >          this, so it creates a new DCACHE_DISCONECTED dentry and
>> >          returns that instead.
>>
>> This seems to be where the thing goes wrong. It isn't a hashed dentry at
>> this point here, so d_obtain_alias should not be making one.
>
> Sounds sensible.  (But can you think of any actual bugs that will result
> from trying to add a new hashed dentry in this case?)

Well, this one? :)


>> I think the inode i_nlink games are much more appropriate on this side of
>> the equation, rather than the dput side (after all, d_obtain_alias is setting
>> up an alias for the inode).
>>
>> Can you even put the link check into __d_find_alias?
>>
>> -               if (S_ISDIR(inode->i_mode) || !d_unhashed(alias)) {
>> +               if (S_ISDIR(inode->i_mode) || !inode->i_nlink ||
>> !d_unhashed(alias)) {
>>
>> Something like that?
>
> The immediate result of that would be for the close rpc (or any rpc's
> sent after the file was unlinked) to fail with ESTALE.

Why is that? Seems like it would be a bug, because a hashed dentry may
be unhashed at any time concurrently to nfsd operation, so it should be
able to tolerate that so long as it has a ref on the inode?


> But nfsd already holds an open file in this case, and you could argue
> that it should be using that from the start.

Yes.


> So, we could modify nfsd to add a hash mapping filehandles to the filp's
> that it knows about, and have nfsd consult that hash before calling
> dentry_to_fh.

Could be an option. It would be a pity not just be able to use the alias list.
What exactly goes wrong when it gets an unhashed alias back?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-16  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-12 18:43 lifetime of DCACHE_DISCONECTED dentries J. Bruce Fields
2010-11-13 11:53 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-15 17:48   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]     ` <20101115174837.GB10044-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-16  6:45       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-11-29  3:56         ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-29 19:32           ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]             ` <20101129193248.GA9897-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-30  1:00               ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTikwzDJ_q65==uxDsAhp3h8bU7Rkt7U9gVgRAK0D-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-11-30 18:39                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-12-03 22:33                   ` [PATCH] nfsd4: allow __d_obtain_alias() to return unhashed dentries J. Bruce Fields
2010-12-13  5:19                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-14 22:01                       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                         ` <20101214220102.GM24828-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-17 17:53                           ` [PATCH] fs/dcache: use standard list macro for d_find_alias J. Bruce Fields
2010-12-17 18:00                           ` [PATCH 2/2] fs/dcache: allow __d_obtain_alias() to return unhashed dentries J. Bruce Fields
2010-12-18  2:01                             ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-18 16:16                               ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                 ` <20101218161609.GA22150-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-19 14:53                                   ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                                     ` <AANLkTingRv_gtRSctGzMfYrKg02M_sKj97HSQPRm_mA_-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-27 23:46                                       ` [PATCH] " J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                         ` <20101227234641.GA22248-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-18 20:45                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                             ` <20110118204509.GA10903-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-18 22:02                                               ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                                                 ` <AANLkTikL2CDSWQJ1QH_Y4G-j70Vd=VesNMMnYTmMGHC9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-18 22:08                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                     ` <20110118220817.GF10903-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-08 18:13                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                         ` <20110308181320.GA15566-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 10:58                                                           ` Al Viro
     [not found]                                                             ` <20110310105821.GE22723-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11  4:07                                                               ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20110311150749.2fa2be66-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-14 17:03                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20120214170300.GA4309-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-15 16:56                                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20120215165633.GE12490-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16  3:06                                                                           ` NeilBrown
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20120216140603.08cb4900-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 11:51                                                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20120216115133.GA20279-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 16:08                                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-02-16 22:30                                                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                               ` <20120216223011.GA23997-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-17 16:34                                                                                 ` Peng Tao
2012-03-13 20:55                                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-13 20:58                                                                                     ` [PATCH 1/2] vfs: stop d_splice_alias creating directory aliases J. Bruce Fields
2012-03-13 20:58                                                                                     ` [PATCH 2/2] vfs: remove unused __d_splice_alias argument J. Bruce Fields
2012-02-20  2:55                                                                                 ` [PATCH] fs/dcache: allow __d_obtain_alias() to return unhashed dentries NeilBrown
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20120220135537.3078e20b-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-29 23:10                                                                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-06-28 13:59                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20120628135927.GA6406-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-29 20:10                                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20120629201034.GA17103-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2012-06-29 20:29                                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-07-01 23:15                                                                             ` NeilBrown

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