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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kenel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org,
	zohar@us.ibm.com, warthog9@kernel.org, david@fromorbit.com,
	jmorris@namei.org, kyle@mcmartin.ca, hpa@zytor.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] IMA: move read/write counters into struct inode
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:52:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimGdjPyLXuknDNa7WNthDT9+2FdOuPdxwjRiMHD@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101019011650.25346.99614.stgit@paris.rdu.redhat.com>

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> IMA currently alocated an inode integrity structure for every inode in
> core.  This stucture is about 120 bytes long.  Most files however
> (especially on a system which doesn't make use of IMA) will never need any
> of this space.  The problem is that if IMA is enabled we need to know
> information about the number of readers and the number of writers for every
> inode on the box.  At the moment we collect that information in the per
> inode iint structure and waste the rest of the space.  This patch moves those
> counters into the struct inode so we can eventually stop allocating an IMA
> integrity structure except when absolutely needed.

Hmm. I don't think this is really acceptable as-is.

First off (and most trivially) - the fields are misnamed. Just calling
them "{open,read,write}count" was fine when it was part of an ima
structure, but for all the historical reasons, inode fields are called
'i_xyzzy'.

Secondly, we already maintain a write count (called "i_writecount").
Why is the IMA writecount different, and should it be?

Thirdly, why is it an "unsigned long"? Are the IMA numbers cumulative
or something? How could you ever overflow a 32-bit counter if not?

Finally, why does IMA even care about the read-counts vs open-counts?
Why not just open-counts, and consider any non-write to be an open?

In short, I think this patch would be _much_ more acceptable if it
added just a _single_ 32-bit "i_opencount". And even then I'd ask
"what's the difference between i_opencount and our already existing
i_count?

                                 Linus

IOW, at a glance, I think it might be much more acceptable if we only added
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-19 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-19  1:16 [PATCH 1/3] IMA: move read/write counters into struct inode Eric Paris
2010-10-19  1:16 ` [PATCH 2/3] IMA: only allocate iint when needed Eric Paris
2010-10-19  1:17 ` [PATCH 3/3] IMA: use rbtree instead of radix tree for inode information cache Eric Paris
2010-10-19  1:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] IMA: move read/write counters into struct inode Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-19  2:14   ` Eric Paris
2010-10-19  7:39     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-19 16:24       ` Eric Paris
2010-10-19 16:29         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-19  8:39     ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-19  2:46 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-19 15:52 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-10-19 16:36   ` Eric Paris
2010-10-19 16:55     ` Al Viro
2010-10-19 17:03       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-19 17:28         ` Al Viro
2010-10-19 18:16           ` Mimi Zohar
2010-10-20 13:10             ` John Stoffel
2010-10-20 13:36               ` Al Viro
2010-10-20 14:09                 ` John Stoffel
2010-10-19 19:11           ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-10-20  3:15             ` Al Viro
2010-10-20 17:38               ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-10-19 22:49         ` Eric Paris
2010-10-20 14:38           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-20 14:46             ` Eric Paris
2010-10-20 15:15               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-20 15:25                 ` Eric Paris
2010-10-21 16:15                 ` Casey Schaufler
2010-10-22  8:48                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-22 17:50                     ` Casey Schaufler

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