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From: Michal Suchanek <hramrach@centrum.cz>
To: "J. R. Okajima" <hooanon05@yahoo.co.jp>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	apw@canonical.com, nbd@openwrt.org, jordipujolp@gmail.com,
	ezk@fsl.cs.sunysb.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] overlay filesystem: request for inclusion
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:19:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=Vu4t+FFKGapJZVjQ_e1rGD7ug2g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21324.1307677721@jrobl>

On 10 June 2011 05:48, J. R. Okajima <hooanon05@yahoo.co.jp> wrote:

> Michal Suchanek:
>> No implementation will satisfy all needs. There is always some
>> compromise between availability (userspace/in-tree/easy to patch in)
>> feature completeness (eg. AuFS is not so easy to forward-port to new
>> kernels but has numerous features) performance, reliability.
>
> Not so easy?
> While I stopped updating aufs2 just before 2.6.39 (because I simply have
> no time), I think it is easy for aufs to support 2.6.39 or 3.0.
> Would you tell me what is so difficult?
>
To be fair any out-of-tree in-kernel solution is going to be equally
hard to forward-port.

I am not a kernel VFS hacker so whenever there is a Linux VFS change
other than trivial changes like swapping headers and renaming stuff I
can't use an out-of-tree patch with the changed VFS.

Any solution that leverages the in-kernel interfaces, either hacking
them directly or calling functions not available from userspace is
going to have this issue unless merged into the kernel.

For me the current unionnount and overlayfs are sufficient in that I
can run a live filesystem on top of them reliably.

Others use overlayfs for small systems (eg. OpenWRT) where a solution
as large as aufs is likely not going to fit unless most features can
be compiled out.

Anyway, as I understand it aufs is not going to be merged because the
VFS maintainers don't want a filesyetem (like aufs) but do accept only
mount (overlayfs or unionmount).

So overlayfs is the only way forward now since unionmount development
has stopped.

Thanks

Michal

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-10 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-01 12:46 [PATCH 0/7] overlay filesystem: request for inclusion Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 1/7] vfs: add i_op->open() Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 2/7] vfs: export do_splice_direct() to modules Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 3/7] vfs: introduce clone_private_mount() Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 4/7] overlay filesystem Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 5/7] overlayfs: add statfs support Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 6/7] overlayfs: implement show_options Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-01 12:46 ` [PATCH 7/7] overlay: overlay filesystem documentation Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-08 22:32 ` [PATCH 0/7] overlay filesystem: request for inclusion Andrew Morton
2011-06-09  1:59   ` NeilBrown
2011-06-09  3:52     ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-09 12:47       ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-09 19:38         ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-09 19:49           ` Felix Fietkau
2011-06-09 22:02           ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-10  3:48             ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-10  9:31               ` Francis Moreau
2011-06-16 18:27                 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-06-10 10:19               ` Michal Suchanek [this message]
2011-06-12  7:44                 ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-13 18:48               ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-08 14:44                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-08 15:21                   ` Tomas M
2011-07-09 12:22                   ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 12:33                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-15 13:02                       ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 13:04                         ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 13:07                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-15 13:33                           ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 15:16                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-09 13:49       ` Andy Whitcroft
2011-06-09 19:32         ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-09 19:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-09 20:17             ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-09 22:58               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2011-06-11  2:39                 ` Greg KH
2011-06-12 20:51                   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2011-06-10 11:51           ` Bernd Schubert
2011-06-10 12:45             ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-10 12:54               ` Bernd Schubert
2011-06-09 13:57       ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-09 13:57       ` Andy Whitcroft
2011-07-05 19:54   ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2011-07-08 12:57     ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-10  8:23       ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-10 13:55         ` Sorin Faibish
2011-07-12 15:59           ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-10 11:16       ` Hans-Peter Jansen
2011-07-12 16:15         ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found] ` <4540f7aa16724111bd792a1d577261c2@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu>
2011-06-16  6:51   ` Erez Zadok
2011-06-16  9:45     ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-16 10:45     ` Jordi Pujol
2011-06-16 15:15     ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-16 16:09       ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-16 22:59         ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-08 14:40         ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-07-09 12:18           ` J. R. Okajima
2011-07-15 10:59             ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]     ` <b624059d70d546d4a4ecb940613235ab@HUBCAS2.cs.stonybrook.edu>
     [not found]       ` <BF42D8D9-B947-448A-8818-BCA786E75325@fsl.cs.sunysb.edu>
2011-06-16 23:41         ` J. R. Okajima
     [not found]         ` <ab75a25c918145569b721dea9aea5506@HUBCAS2.cs.stonybrook.edu>
     [not found]           ` <BF19F4F8-9E0F-4983-87C1-BB1B0A11D011@fsl.cs.sunysb.edu>
2011-06-17  1:49             ` J. R. Okajima
     [not found] <20110609125114.8dff08da.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2011-06-10  6:57 ` Fw: " Valerie Aurora
2011-06-10  9:01   ` Alan Cox
2011-06-15 11:19     ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-15 14:32       ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-15 15:49         ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-15 16:14           ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-15 17:20             ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-15 18:12               ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-16  2:43               ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-16 10:35                 ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-16 15:15                   ` J. R. Okajima
2011-06-17  7:38                     ` Michal Suchanek
2011-06-20  0:43                       ` J. R. Okajima
     [not found]         ` <803fd88dc28748428861b75afdee3575@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu>
2011-06-16  0:44           ` Erez Zadok
2011-06-16  3:07             ` J. R. Okajima

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