From: Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@googlemail.com>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: "Bruno Prémont" <bonbons@linux-vserver.org>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Mike Frysinger" <vapier.adi@gmail.com>,
"KOSAKI Motohiro" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>,
"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.39-rc4+: Kernel leaking memory during FS scanning, regression?
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:13:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTim5oKxPT1KT5Zut937H5RVMiyn+Hg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110425172914.GB2468@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Paul E. McKenney
<paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 07:00:32PM +0200, Bruno Prémont wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 April 2011 Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> > 2011/4/25 Bruno Prémont <bonbons@linux-vserver.org>:
>> > >
>> > > kmemleak reports 86681 new leaks between shortly after boot and -2 state.
>> > > (and 2348 additional ones between -2 and -4).
>> >
>> > I wouldn't necessarily trust kmemleak with the whole RCU-freeing
>> > thing. In your slubinfo reports, the kmemleak data itself also tends
>> > to overwhelm everything else - none of it looks unreasonable per se.
>> >
>> > That said, you clearly have a *lot* of filp entries. I wouldn't
>> > consider it unreasonable, though, because depending on load those may
>> > well be fine. Perhaps you really do have some application(s) that hold
>> > thousands of files open. The default file limit is 1024 (I think), but
>> > you can raise it, and some programs do end up opening tens of
>> > thousands of files for filesystem scanning purposes.
>> >
>> > That said, I would suggest simply trying a saner kernel configuration,
>> > and seeing if that makes a difference:
>> >
>> > > Yes, it's uni-processor system, so SMP=n.
>> > > TINY_RCU=y, PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y (whole /proc/config.gz attached keeping
>> > > compression)
>> >
>> > I'm not at all certain that TINY_RCU is appropriate for
>> > general-purpose loads. I'd call it more of a "embedded low-performance
>> > option".
>>
>> Well, TINY_RCU is the only option when doing PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY on
>> SMP=n...
>
> You can either set SMP=y and NR_CPUS=1 or you can handed-edit
> init/Kconfig to remove the dependency on SMP. Just change the
>
> depends on !PREEMPT && SMP
>
> to:
>
> depends on !PREEMPT
>
> This will work fine, especially for experimental purposes.
>
>> > The _real_ RCU implementation ("tree rcu") forces quiescent states
>> > every few jiffies and has logic to handle "I've got tons of RCU
>> > events, I really need to start handling them now". All of which I
>> > think tiny-rcu lacks.
>>
>> Going to try it out (will take some time to compile), kmemleak disabled.
>>
>> > So right now I suspect that you have a situation where you just have a
>> > simple load that just ends up never triggering any RCU cleanup, and
>> > the tiny-rcu thing just keeps on gathering events and delays freeing
>> > stuff almost arbitrarily long.
>>
>> I hope tiny-rcu is not that broken... as it would mean driving any
>> PREEMPT_NONE or PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY system out of memory when compiling
>> packages (and probably also just unpacking larger tarballs or running
>> things like du).
>
> If it is broken, I will fix it. ;-)
>
> Thanx, Paul
>
>> And with system doing nothing (except monitoring itself) memory usage
>> goes increasing all the time until it starves (well it seems to keep
>> ~20M free, pushing processes it can to swap). Config is just being
>> make oldconfig from working 2.6.38 kernel (answering default for new
>> options)
>>
>> Memory usage evolution graph in first message of this thread:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/61909/focus=1130480
>>
>> Attached graph matching numbers of previous mail. (dropping caches was at
>> 17:55, system idle since then)
>>
>> Bruno
>>
>>
>> > So try CONFIG_PREEMPT and CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU to see if the
>> > behavior goes away. That would confirm the "it's just tinyrcu being
>> > too dang stupid" hypothesis.
>> >
>> > Linus
>
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Hi,
I was playing with Debian's kernel-buildsystem for -rc4 with a
self-defined '686-up' so-called flavour.
Here I have a Banias Pentium-M (UP, *no* PAE) and still experimenting
with kernel-config options.
CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y
...is not possible with CONFIG_SMP=y
These settings are possible by not hacking existing Kconfigs:
$ egrep 'M486|M686|X86_UP|CONFIG_SMP|NR_CPUS|PREEMPT|_RCU|_HIGHMEM|PAE'
debian/build/build_i386_none_686-up/.config
CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU=y
# CONFIG_TINY_RCU is not set
# CONFIG_TINY_PREEMPT_RCU is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=y
# CONFIG_RCU_TRACE is not set
CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=32
# CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_EXACT is not set
# CONFIG_TREE_RCU_TRACE is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT_NOTIFIERS=y
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
CONFIG_M686=y
CONFIG_NR_CPUS=1
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y
CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT=y
# CONFIG_SPARSE_RCU_POINTER is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_HIGHMEM is not set
# CONFIG_RCU_TORTURE_TEST is not set
# CONFIG_RCU_CPU_STALL_DETECTOR is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_TRACER is not set
But I also see these warnings:
.config:2106:warning: override: TREE_PREEMPT_RCU changes choice state
.config:2182:warning: override: PREEMPT changes choice state
Not sure how to interprete them, so I am a bit careful :-).
( Untested - not compiled yet! )
- Sedat -
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-25 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-24 18:21 2.6.39-rc4+: Kernel leaking memory during FS scanning, regression? Bruno Prémont
2011-04-24 21:59 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 2:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-25 7:47 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-04-25 9:17 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 9:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-25 10:34 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 11:41 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 11:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-25 12:11 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 12:14 ` Tetsuo Handa
2011-04-25 12:21 ` Tetsuo Handa
2011-04-25 15:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 16:04 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 16:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 17:00 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 17:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 18:36 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 19:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 21:10 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 21:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 21:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 21:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26 6:19 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-26 11:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26 16:38 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-26 17:09 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-26 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-26 22:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27 6:15 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 18:41 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 19:16 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-27 19:34 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 22:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 20:40 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 22:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-28 6:10 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 22:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27 22:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 22:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27 22:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-27 23:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-28 9:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 9:17 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 9:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 10:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-28 9:45 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 10:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-28 13:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-28 15:28 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 15:44 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 15:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-28 18:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 20:23 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-28 20:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 20:44 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-28 21:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 21:51 ` john stultz
2011-04-28 22:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 23:06 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 23:35 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 0:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-29 9:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 7:55 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 18:09 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-04-29 18:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 19:31 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-29 20:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 20:14 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-30 9:14 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 20:41 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 19:22 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-27 21:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-28 6:22 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-28 10:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-26 18:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26 19:17 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-27 22:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 22:08 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-04-25 17:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 18:13 ` Sedat Dilek [this message]
2011-04-25 18:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 17:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 10:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-25 17:51 ` Pekka Enberg
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