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From: Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@googlemail.com>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: "Bruno Prémont" <bonbons@linux-vserver.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Mike Frysinger" <vapier.adi@gmail.com>,
	"KOSAKI Motohiro" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>,
	"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.39-rc4+: Kernel leaking memory during FS scanning, regression?
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:13:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTim5oKxPT1KT5Zut937H5RVMiyn+Hg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110425172914.GB2468@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Paul E. McKenney
<paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 07:00:32PM +0200, Bruno Prémont wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 April 2011 Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> > 2011/4/25 Bruno Prémont <bonbons@linux-vserver.org>:
>> > >
>> > > kmemleak reports 86681 new leaks between shortly after boot and -2 state.
>> > > (and 2348 additional ones between -2 and -4).
>> >
>> > I wouldn't necessarily trust kmemleak with the whole RCU-freeing
>> > thing. In your slubinfo reports, the kmemleak data itself also tends
>> > to overwhelm everything else - none of it looks unreasonable per se.
>> >
>> > That said, you clearly have a *lot* of filp entries. I wouldn't
>> > consider it unreasonable, though, because depending on load those may
>> > well be fine. Perhaps you really do have some application(s) that hold
>> > thousands of files open. The default file limit is 1024 (I think), but
>> > you can raise it, and some programs do end up opening tens of
>> > thousands of files for filesystem scanning purposes.
>> >
>> > That said, I would suggest simply trying a saner kernel configuration,
>> > and seeing if that makes a difference:
>> >
>> > > Yes, it's uni-processor system, so SMP=n.
>> > > TINY_RCU=y, PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y (whole /proc/config.gz attached keeping
>> > > compression)
>> >
>> > I'm not at all certain that TINY_RCU is appropriate for
>> > general-purpose loads. I'd call it more of a "embedded low-performance
>> > option".
>>
>> Well, TINY_RCU is the only option when doing PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY on
>> SMP=n...
>
> You can either set SMP=y and NR_CPUS=1 or you can handed-edit
> init/Kconfig to remove the dependency on SMP.  Just change the
>
>        depends on !PREEMPT && SMP
>
> to:
>
>        depends on !PREEMPT
>
> This will work fine, especially for experimental purposes.
>
>> > The _real_ RCU implementation ("tree rcu") forces quiescent states
>> > every few jiffies and has logic to handle "I've got tons of RCU
>> > events, I really need to start handling them now". All of which I
>> > think tiny-rcu lacks.
>>
>> Going to try it out (will take some time to compile), kmemleak disabled.
>>
>> > So right now I suspect that you have a situation where you just have a
>> > simple load that just ends up never triggering any RCU cleanup, and
>> > the tiny-rcu thing just keeps on gathering events and delays freeing
>> > stuff almost arbitrarily long.
>>
>> I hope tiny-rcu is not that broken... as it would mean driving any
>> PREEMPT_NONE or PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY system out of memory when compiling
>> packages (and probably also just unpacking larger tarballs or running
>> things like du).
>
> If it is broken, I will fix it.  ;-)
>
>                                                        Thanx, Paul
>
>> And with system doing nothing (except monitoring itself) memory usage
>> goes increasing all the time until it starves (well it seems to keep
>> ~20M free, pushing processes it can to swap). Config is just being
>> make oldconfig from working 2.6.38 kernel (answering default for new
>> options)
>>
>> Memory usage evolution graph in first message of this thread:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/61909/focus=1130480
>>
>> Attached graph matching numbers of previous mail. (dropping caches was at
>> 17:55, system idle since then)
>>
>> Bruno
>>
>>
>> > So try CONFIG_PREEMPT and CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU to see if the
>> > behavior goes away. That would confirm the "it's just tinyrcu being
>> > too dang stupid" hypothesis.
>> >
>> >                      Linus
>
>
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Hi,

I was playing with Debian's kernel-buildsystem for -rc4 with a
self-defined '686-up' so-called flavour.

Here I have a Banias Pentium-M (UP, *no* PAE) and still experimenting
with kernel-config options.

CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y

...is not possible with CONFIG_SMP=y

These settings are possible by not hacking existing Kconfigs:

$ egrep 'M486|M686|X86_UP|CONFIG_SMP|NR_CPUS|PREEMPT|_RCU|_HIGHMEM|PAE'
debian/build/build_i386_none_686-up/.config
CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU=y
# CONFIG_TINY_RCU is not set
# CONFIG_TINY_PREEMPT_RCU is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=y
# CONFIG_RCU_TRACE is not set
CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=32
# CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_EXACT is not set
# CONFIG_TREE_RCU_TRACE is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT_NOTIFIERS=y
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
CONFIG_M686=y
CONFIG_NR_CPUS=1
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y
CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT=y
# CONFIG_SPARSE_RCU_POINTER is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_HIGHMEM is not set
# CONFIG_RCU_TORTURE_TEST is not set
# CONFIG_RCU_CPU_STALL_DETECTOR is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT_TRACER is not set

But I also see these warnings:

.config:2106:warning: override: TREE_PREEMPT_RCU changes choice state
.config:2182:warning: override: PREEMPT changes choice state

Not sure how to interprete them, so I am a bit careful :-).

( Untested - not compiled yet! )

- Sedat -

  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-25 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-24 18:21 2.6.39-rc4+: Kernel leaking memory during FS scanning, regression? Bruno Prémont
2011-04-24 21:59 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25  2:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-25  7:47     ` Mike Frysinger
2011-04-25  9:17       ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25  9:25         ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-25 10:34           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 11:41             ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 11:47               ` Pekka Enberg
2011-04-25 12:11                 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 12:14                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2011-04-25 12:21                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2011-04-25 15:22         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 16:04           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 16:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 17:00               ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 17:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 17:20                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 18:36                   ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 19:16                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 21:10                       ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-25 21:26                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 21:30                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-25 21:49                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26  6:19                             ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-26 11:27                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26 16:38                                 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-26 17:09                                   ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-26 17:18                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-26 22:28                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27  6:15                                         ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 18:41                                           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 19:16                                             ` Pádraig Brady
2011-04-27 19:34                                               ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 22:05                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 20:40                                             ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 22:07                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-28  6:10                                                 ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-27 22:06                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27 22:27                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 22:32                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-27 22:59                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 23:28                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-27 23:46                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-28  9:09                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28  9:17                                                 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28  9:40                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 10:12                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-28  9:45                                                 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 10:26                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-28 13:30                                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-28 15:28                                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 15:44                                                         ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 15:48                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-28 18:49                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 20:23                                                           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-28 20:29                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 20:44                                                               ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-28 21:04                                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 21:51                                                                   ` john stultz
2011-04-28 22:02                                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-28 23:06                                                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 23:35                                                                         ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29  0:42                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-29  9:34                                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29  7:55                                                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-29 18:09                                                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-04-29 18:26                                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 19:31                                                                       ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-29 20:10                                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 20:14                                                                           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-30  9:14                                                                             ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 20:41                                                           ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-28 19:22                                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-27 21:55                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-28  6:22                                           ` Bruno Prémont
2011-04-28 10:26                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26 17:12                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-26 18:50                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-26 19:17                                       ` Sedat Dilek
2011-04-27 22:02                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 22:08                         ` Mike Frysinger
2011-04-25 17:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 18:13                   ` Sedat Dilek [this message]
2011-04-25 18:28                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-25 17:26               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-04-27 10:28               ` Catalin Marinas
2011-04-25 17:51           ` Pekka Enberg

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