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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/3] mm/vmalloc: add support for __GFP_NOFAIL
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 15:54:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+KHdyUopXQVTp2=X-7DYYFNiuTrh25opiUOd1CXED1UXY2Fhg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YW/SYl/ZKp7W60mg@dhcp22.suse.cz>

> > >
> > I think adding kind of schedule() will not make things worse and in corner
> > cases could prevent a power drain by CPU. It is important for mobile devices.
>
> I suspect you mean schedule_timeout here? Or cond_resched? I went with a
> later for now, I do not have a good idea for how to long to sleep here.
> I am more than happy to change to to a sleep though.
>
cond_resched() reschedules only if TIF_NEED_RESCHED is raised what is not good
here. Because in our case we know that we definitely would like to
take a breath. Therefore
invoking the schedule() is more suitable here. It will give a CPU time
to another waiting
process(if exists) in any case putting the "current" one to the tail.

As for adding a delay. I am not sure about for how long to delay or i
would say i do not
see a good explanation why for example we delay for 10 milliseconds or so.

> > As for vmap space, it can be that a user specifies a short range that does
> > not contain any free area. In that case we might never return back to a caller.
>
> This is to be expected. The caller cannot fail and if it would be
> looping around vmalloc it wouldn't return anyway.
>
> > Maybe add a good comment something like: think what you do when deal with the
> > __vmalloc_node_range() and __GFP_NOFAIL?
>
> We have a generic documentation for gfp flags and __GFP_NOFAIL is
> docuemented to "The allocation could block indefinitely but will never
> return with failure." We are discussing improvements for the generic
> documentation in another thread [1] and we will likely extend it so I
> suspect we do not have to repeat drawbacks here again.
>
> [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/163184741778.29351.16920832234899124642.stgit@noble.brown
>
> Anyway the gfp mask description and constrains for vmalloc are not
> documented. I will add a new patch to fill that gap and send it as a
> reply to this one
>
This is really good. People should be prepared for a case when it
never returns back
to a caller :)

-- 
Uladzislau Rezki

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-18 11:47 [RFC 0/3] extend vmalloc support for constrained allocations Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 11:47 ` [RFC 1/3] mm/vmalloc: alloc GFP_NO{FS,IO} for vmalloc Michal Hocko
2021-10-19  0:44   ` NeilBrown
2021-10-19  6:59     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 11:47 ` [RFC 2/3] mm/vmalloc: add support for __GFP_NOFAIL Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 16:48   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 11:06   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-19 11:52     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 19:46       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-20  8:25         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20  9:18           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 13:54           ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2021-10-20 14:06             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 14:29               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-20 14:53                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 15:00                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-20 19:24                     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-21  8:56                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 10:13                       ` NeilBrown
2021-10-21 10:27                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 10:40                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-21 22:49                             ` NeilBrown
2021-10-22  8:18                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:48                               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-25 11:20                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25 14:30                                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-25 14:56                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25 23:50                                 ` NeilBrown
2021-10-26  7:16                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-26 10:24                                     ` NeilBrown
2021-10-26 14:25                                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-26 14:43                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-26 15:40                                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2021-10-20  8:25   ` [PATCH] mm/vmalloc: be more explicit about supported gfp flags Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 11:47 ` [RFC 3/3] mm: allow !GFP_KERNEL allocations for kvmalloc Michal Hocko

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