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From: David Gow <davidgow@google.com>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] selftest: Taint kernel when test module loaded
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 16:34:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABVgOSkhr6xfgXZWW6UdbU4MpAvqsDOsqVP0THsH0gVB949HjA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yn57d1e6k8uv2uQj@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:38 PM Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 04:32:13PM +0800, David Gow wrote:
> > Make any kselftest test module (using the kselftest_module framework)
> > taint the kernel with TAINT_TEST on module load.
> >
> > Note that several selftests use kernel modules which are not based on
> > the kselftest_module framework, and so will not automatically taint the
> > kernel. These modules will have to be manually modified if they should
> > taint the kernel this way.
> >
> > Similarly, selftests which do not load modules into the kernel generally
> > should not taint the kernel (or possibly should only do so on failure),
> > as it's assumed that testing from user-space should be safe. Regardless,
> > they can write to /proc/sys/kernel/tainted if required.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: David Gow <davidgow@google.com>
>
> Not all selftest modules use KSTM_MODULE_LOADERS() so I'd like to see a
> modpost target as well, otherwise this just covers a sliver of
> selftests.
>

My personal feeling is that the ideal way of solving this is actually
to port those modules which aren't using KSTM_MODULE_LOADERS() (or
KUnit, or some other system) to do so, or to otherwise manually tag
them as selftests and/or make them taint the kernel.

That being said, we can gain a bit my making the module-loading
helpers in kselftest/module.sh manually taint the kernel with
/proc/sys/kernel/tainted, which will catch quite a few of them (even
if tainting from userspace before they're loaded is suboptimal).

I've also started experimenting with a "test" MODULE_INFO field, which
modpost would add with the -t option. That still requires sprinkling
MODULE_INFO() everwhere, or the '-t' option to a bunch of makefiles,
or doing something more drastic to set it automatically for modules in
a given directory / makefile. Or the staging thing of checking the
directory / prefix in modpost.

I'll play around some more and have something to show in v4. (If we
have a MODULE_INFO field, we should use it for KUnit modules, but we'd
still have to taint the kernel manually for built-in tests anyway, so
it'd be redundant...)

-- David

      reply	other threads:[~2022-05-14  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220429043913.626647-1-davidgow@google.com>
     [not found] ` <20220430030019.803481-1-davidgow@google.com>
     [not found]   ` <Ym7P7mCoMiQq99EM@bombadil.infradead.org>
2022-05-01 18:24     ` [PATCH v2] kunit: Taint kernel if any tests run Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-03  6:49       ` David Gow
2022-05-04 14:51         ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-04 16:25           ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-04 18:46             ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-04 19:19               ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-04 21:12                 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-05  5:57                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-06  7:01                     ` David Gow
2022-05-09 20:43                       ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-13  8:32 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] panic: Taint kernel if tests are run David Gow
2022-05-13 15:35   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-17 20:45   ` Brendan Higgins
2022-05-13  8:32 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] kunit: Taint the kernel when KUnit " David Gow
2022-05-13 15:36   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-13 19:08   ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-14  3:04     ` David Gow
2022-05-14 19:25       ` Daniel Latypov
2022-05-17 20:58         ` Brendan Higgins
2022-05-17 20:58   ` Brendan Higgins
2022-05-13  8:32 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] selftest: Taint kernel when test module loaded David Gow
2022-05-13 15:38   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-14  8:34     ` David Gow [this message]

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