From: David Windsor <dwindsor@gmail.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
andrii@kernel.org, martin.lau@linux.dev, song@kernel.org,
kpsingh@kernel.org, john.fastabend@gmail.com,
brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 1/2] bpf: Add dentry kfuncs for BPF LSM programs
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 20:44:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEXv5_hEXggxe5EwSHV8SK21e6HNmfYFSE9kx=ojwEobtTTGLA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250925002901.GX39973@ZenIV>
On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 8:29 PM Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 08:08:03PM -0400, David Windsor wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 7:55 PM Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 07:24:33PM -0400, David Windsor wrote:
> > > > Add six new BPF kfuncs that enable BPF LSM programs to safely interact
> > > > with dentry objects:
> > > >
> > > > - bpf_dget(): Acquire reference on dentry
> > > > - bpf_dput(): Release reference on dentry
> > > > - bpf_dget_parent(): Get referenced parent dentry
> > > > - bpf_d_find_alias(): Find referenced alias dentry for inode
> > > > - bpf_file_dentry(): Get dentry from file
> > > > - bpf_file_vfsmount(): Get vfsmount from file
> > > >
> > > > All kfuncs are currently restricted to BPF_PROG_TYPE_LSM programs.
> > >
> > > You have an interesting definition of safety.
> > >
> > > We are *NOT* letting random out-of-tree code play around with the
> > > lifetime rules for core objects.
> > >
> >
> > File references are already exposed to bpf (bpf_get_task_exe_file,
> > bpf_put_file) with the same KF_ACQUIRE|KF_RELEASE semantics. These
> > follow the same pattern and are also LSM-only.
>
> You can safely clone and retain file references. You can't do that
> to dentries unless you are guaranteed an active reference to superblock
> to stay around for as long as you are retaining those. Note that
> LSM hooks might be called with ->s_umount held by caller, so the locking
> environment for superblocks depends upon the hook in question.
Yeah good point about ->s_umount, why don't we just create a new "safe
dentry hooks" BTF ID set and restrict this to those and filter in
bpf_fs_kfuncs_filter, where there's existing filtering going on
anyway?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-25 0:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-24 23:24 [PATCH bpf-next 0/2] bpf: Add more dentry kfuncs for BPF LSM programs David Windsor
2025-09-24 23:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/2] bpf: Add " David Windsor
2025-09-24 23:55 ` Al Viro
2025-09-25 0:08 ` David Windsor
2025-09-25 0:29 ` Al Viro
2025-09-25 0:44 ` David Windsor [this message]
2025-09-25 0:47 ` Al Viro
2025-09-25 0:56 ` David Windsor
2025-09-29 8:24 ` Christian Brauner
2025-09-24 23:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/2] selftests/bpf: Add tests for dentry kfuncs David Windsor
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