From: Steve French <smfrench@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ioannis Angelakopoulos <jaggel@bu.edu>,
CIFS <linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org>,
samba-technical <samba-technical@lists.samba.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Enabling change notification for network and cluster fs
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 09:27:55 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH2r5mt9EtTEJCKsHkvRctfhMv7LnT6XT_JEvAb7ji6-oYnTPg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YhjeX0HvXbED65IM@casper.infradead.org>
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 7:49 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 08:23:20AM -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > What about local events. I am assuming you want to supress local events
> > and only deliver remote events. Because having both local and remote
> > events delivered at the same time will be just confusing at best.
>
> This paragraph confuses me. If I'm writing, for example, a file manager
> and I want it to update its display automatically when another task alters
> the contents of a directory, I don't care whether the modification was
> done locally or remotely.
>
> If I understand the SMB protocol correctly, it allows the client to take
> out a lease on a directory and not send its modifications back to the
> server until the client chooses to (or the server breaks the lease).
> So you wouldn't get any remote notifications because the client hasn't
> told the server.
Directory leases would be broken by file create so the more important
question is what happens when client 1 has a change notification on writes
to files in a directory then client 2 opens a file in the same directory and is
granted a file lease and starts writing to the file (which means the
writes could get cached). This is probably a minor point because when
writes get flushed from client 2, client 1 (and any others with notifications
requested) will get notified of the event (changes to files in a directory
that they are watching).
Local applications watching a file on a network or cluster mount in Linux
(just as is the case with Windows, Macs etc.) should be able to be notified of
local (cached) writes to a remote file or remote writes to the file from another
client. I don't think the change is large, and there was an earlier version of
a patch circulated for this
--
Thanks,
Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-25 15:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-24 5:16 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Enabling change notification for network and cluster fs Steve French
2022-02-24 21:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2022-02-24 22:55 ` Steve French
2022-02-25 13:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2022-02-25 13:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-25 14:30 ` Vivek Goyal
2022-02-25 15:27 ` Steve French [this message]
2022-02-25 16:35 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <CAH2r5msPz1JZK4OWX_=+2HTzKTZE07ACxbEv3xM-1T0HTnVWMw@mail.gmail.com>
2022-02-26 10:22 ` [Lsf-pc] " Amir Goldstein
2022-02-28 5:42 ` Ralph Boehme
2022-02-26 16:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2022-03-11 12:36 ` Vivek Goyal
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