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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	 Bernd Schubert <bernd@bsbernd.com>
Subject: Re: ->atomic_open() fun (was Re: [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2025 21:22:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegtesk1G-hvcUvVqjH0_gN+YCRXvLHf=H7SORdrNUOnEsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250912182936.GY39973@ZenIV>

On Fri, 12 Sept 2025 at 20:29, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> > Based on (flags & LOOKUP_OPEN) ->revalidate() needs to tell the caller
> > that it's expecting the subsequent ->atomic_open() call to do the
> > actual revalidation.  The proposed interface for that was to add a
> > D_REVALIDATE_ATOMIC =  2 constant to use as a return value in this
> > case.
>
>         Umm...  Unless I'm misunderstanding you, that *would* change the
> calling conventions - dentry could bloody well be positive, couldn't it?
> And that changes quite a bit - without O_CREAT in flags you could get
> parent locked only shared and pass a positive hashed dentry attached
> to a directory inode to ->atomic_open().  The thing is, in that case it
> can be moved by d_splice_alias()...

You are talking about the disconnected directory case?  That can't
happen in this call path, since it's following a normal component from
a parent directory, which by definition isn't disconnected.

Just realized, that open_last_lookups() will bypass lookup_open() on
cached positive anyway, so really no point in handing that  inside
lookup_open().

Should this be done via a new  i_op->reval_open() called without inode
lock, with a positive dentry and gets a name just like d_revalidate?

Thanks,
Miklos

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-12 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-07 20:32 [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits Al Viro
2025-09-07 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-08  0:06   ` Al Viro
2025-09-08  0:47     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-08  2:51       ` Al Viro
2025-09-08  3:57         ` Al Viro
2025-09-08  4:50           ` NeilBrown
2025-09-08  5:19             ` Al Viro
2025-09-08  6:25               ` NeilBrown
2025-09-08  9:05                 ` Al Viro
2025-09-10  2:45                   ` NeilBrown
2025-09-10  7:24                     ` Al Viro
2025-09-10 22:52                       ` NeilBrown
2025-09-12  5:49                       ` ->atomic_open() fun (was Re: [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits) Al Viro
2025-09-12  8:23                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-12 18:29                           ` Al Viro
2025-09-12 19:22                             ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2025-09-12 20:36                               ` Al Viro
2025-09-12 20:50                                 ` Al Viro
2025-09-13  3:36                             ` NeilBrown
2025-09-13  5:07                               ` Al Viro
2025-09-13  5:50                                 ` NeilBrown
2025-09-14 19:01                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-14 19:50                                   ` Al Viro
2025-09-14 20:05                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-09-15  8:54                                       ` Bernd Schubert
2025-09-12 18:55                         ` Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                           ` [PATCH 1/9] allow finish_no_open(file, ERR_PTR(-E...)) Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 2/9] 9p: simplify v9fs_vfs_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 3/9] 9p: simplify v9fs_vfs_atomic_open_dotl() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 4/9] simplify cifs_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 5/9] simplify vboxsf_dir_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 6/9] simplify nfs_atomic_open_v23() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 7/9] simplify fuse_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 8/9] simplify gfs2_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 18:59                             ` [PATCH 9/9] slightly simplify nfs_atomic_open() Al Viro
2025-09-12 22:23                             ` [PATCH 1/9] allow finish_no_open(file, ERR_PTR(-E...)) Linus Torvalds
2025-09-13  3:34                             ` NeilBrown
2025-09-13 21:28                   ` [RFC] a possible way of reducing the PITA of ->d_name audits Al Viro
2025-09-14  1:05                     ` NeilBrown
2025-09-14  1:37                       ` Al Viro
2025-09-14  5:56                         ` Al Viro
2025-09-14 23:07                           ` NeilBrown

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