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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact of overlayfs fake path files
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2023 17:00:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegtt48eXhhjDFA1ojcHPNKj3Go6joryCPtEFAKpocyBsnw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxgk3sAubfx84FKtNSowgT-aYj0DBX=hvAApre_3a8Cq=g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 16:42, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 5:28 PM Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 4:15 PM Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 9 Jun 2023 at 09:32, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Miklos,
> > > >
> > > > This is the solution that we discussed for removing FMODE_NONOTIFY
> > > > from overlayfs real files.
> > > >
> > > > My branch [1] has an extra patch for remove FMODE_NONOTIFY, but
> > > > I am still testing the ovl-fsnotify interaction, so we can defer
> > > > that step to later.
> > > >
> > > > I wanted to post this series earlier to give more time for fsdevel
> > > > feedback and if these patches get your blessing and the blessing of
> > > > vfs maintainers, it is probably better that they will go through the
> > > > vfs tree.
> > > >
> > > > I've tested that overlay "fake" path are still shown in /proc/self/maps
> > > > and in the /proc/self/exe and /proc/self/map_files/ symlinks.
> > > >
> > > > The audit and tomoyo use of file_fake_path() is not tested
> > > > (CC maintainers), but they both look like user displayed paths,
> > > > so I assumed they's want to preserve the existing behavior
> > > > (i.e. displaying the fake overlayfs path).
> > >
> > > I did an audit of all ->vm_file  and found a couple of missing ones:
> >
> > Wait, but why only ->vm_file?

Because we don't get to intercept vm_ops, so anything done through
mmaps will not go though overlayfs.   That would result in apparmor
missing these, for example.

> > We were under the assumption the fake path is only needed
> > for mapped files, but the list below suggests that it matters
> > to other file operations as well...
> >
> > >
> > > dump_common_audit_data
> > > ima_file_mprotect
> > > common_file_perm (I don't understand the code enough to know whether
> > > it needs fake dentry or not)
> > > aa_file_perm
> > > __file_path_perm
> > > print_bad_pte
> > > file_path
> > > seq_print_user_ip
> > > __mnt_want_write_file
> > > __mnt_drop_write_file
> > > file_dentry_name
> > >
> > > Didn't go into drivers/ and didn't follow indirect calls (e.g.
> > > f_op->fsysnc).  I also may have missed something along the way, but my
> > > guess is that I did catch most cases.
> >
> > Wow. So much for 3-4 special cases...
> >
> > Confused by some of the above.
> >
> > Why would we want __mnt_want_write_file on the fake path?
> > We'd already taken __mnt_want_write on overlay and with
> > real file we need __mnt_want_write on the real path.

It's for write faults on memory maps.   The code already branches on
file->f_mode, I don't think it would be a big performance hit to check
FMODE_FAKE_PATH.

> >
> > For IMA/LSMs, I'd imagine that like fanotify, they would rather get
> > the real path where the real policy is stored.
> > If some log files end with relative path instead of full fake path
> > it's probably not the worst outcome.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Considering the results of your audit, I think I prefer to keep
> f_path fake and store real_path in struct file_fake for code
> that wants the real path.
>
> This will keep all logic unchanged, which is better for my health.
> and only fsnotify (for now) will start using f_real_path() to
> generate events on real fs objects.

That's also an option.

I think f_fake_path() would still be a move in the right direction.
We have 46 instances of file_dentry() currently and of those special
cases most are cosmetic, while missing file_dentry() ones are
crashable.

Thanks,
Miklos

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-09 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-09  7:32 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact of overlayfs fake path files Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09  7:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs: use fake_file container for internal files with fake f_path Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09 11:32   ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-09 11:57     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09 12:12       ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-09 12:20         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09 12:54           ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-09 13:00             ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-09 13:09               ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-11 19:11         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-12  7:55           ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-09  7:32 ` [PATCH 2/3] fs: use file_fake_path() to get path of mapped files for display Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09  8:19   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-06-09  7:32 ` [PATCH 3/3] fs: store fake path in file_fake along with real path Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09 11:12   ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-09 11:30     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09 13:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce impact of overlayfs fake path files Miklos Szeredi
2023-06-09 14:28   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09 14:42     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09 15:00       ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2023-06-09 19:17         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-12  7:57         ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-02 15:32         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-04 15:29           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09 15:27     ` Mimi Zohar
2023-06-09 13:15 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-06-09 13:54   ` Amir Goldstein

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