From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: John Groves <John@groves.net>, John Groves <jgroves@micron.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/20] Introduce the famfs shared-memory file system
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 11:55:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegv8XzFvty_x00UehUQxw9ai8BytvGNXE8SL03zfsTN6ag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxiPc5ciD_zm3jp5sVQaP4ndb40mApw5hx2DL+8BZNd==A@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 at 07:52, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not virtiofs expert, but I don't think that you are wrong about this.
> IIUC, virtiofsd could map arbitrary memory region to any fuse file mmaped
> by virtiofs client.
>
> So what are the gaps between virtiofs and famfs that justify a new filesystem
> driver and new userspace API?
Let me try to fill in some gaps. I've looked at the famfs driver
(even tried to set it up in a VM, but got stuck with the EFI stuff).
- famfs has an extent list per file that indicates how each page
within the file should be mapped onto the dax device, IOW it has the
following mapping:
[famfs file, offset] -> [offset, length]
- fuse can currently map a fuse file onto a backing file:
[fuse file] -> [backing file]
The interface for the latter is
backing_id = ioctl(dev_fuse_fd, FUSE_DEV_IOC_BACKING_OPEN, backing_map);
...
fuse_open_out.flags |= FOPEN_PASSTHROUGH;
fuse_open_out.backing_id = backing_id;
This looks suitable for doing the famfs file - > dax device mapping as
well. I wouldn't extend the ioctl with extent information, since
famfs can just use FUSE_DEV_IOC_BACKING_OPEN once to register the dax
device. The flags field could be used to tell the kernel to treat
this fd as a dax device instead of a a regular file.
Letter, when the file is opened the extent list could be sent in the
open reply together with the backing id. The fuse_ext_header
mechanism seems suitable for this.
And I think that's it as far as API's are concerned.
Note: this is already more generic than the current famfs prototype,
since multiple dax devices could be used as backing for famfs files,
with the constraint that a single file can only map data from a single
dax device.
As for implementing dax passthrough, I think that needs a separate
source file, the one used by virtiofs (fs/fuse/dax.c) does not appear
to have many commonalities with this one. That could be renamed to
virtiofs_dax.c as it's pretty much virtiofs specific, AFAICT.
Comments? Am I missing something significant?
Thanks,
Miklos
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-17 9:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 107+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-23 17:41 [RFC PATCH 00/20] Introduce the famfs shared-memory file system John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 01/20] famfs: Documentation John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 02/20] dev_dax_iomap: Add fs_dax_get() func to prepare dax for fs-dax usage John Groves
2024-02-26 12:05 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 15:00 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 03/20] dev_dax_iomap: Move dax_pgoff_to_phys from device.c to bus.c since both need it now John Groves
2024-02-26 12:10 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 15:13 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 04/20] dev_dax_iomap: Save the kva from memremap John Groves
2024-02-26 12:21 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 15:48 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 05/20] dev_dax_iomap: Add dax_operations for use by fs-dax on devdax John Groves
2024-02-26 12:32 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 16:09 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 06/20] dev_dax_iomap: Add CONFIG_DEV_DAX_IOMAP kernel build parameter John Groves
2024-02-26 12:34 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 16:12 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 07/20] famfs: Add include/linux/famfs_ioctl.h John Groves
2024-02-24 1:39 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-02-24 2:23 ` John Groves
2024-02-24 3:27 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-02-24 23:32 ` John Groves
2024-02-24 23:40 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-02-26 12:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 16:44 ` John Groves
2024-02-26 16:56 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 18:04 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 08/20] famfs: Add famfs_internal.h John Groves
2024-02-26 12:48 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 17:35 ` John Groves
2024-02-27 10:28 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-28 1:06 ` John Groves
2024-02-27 13:38 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-27 14:12 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 09/20] famfs: Add super_operations John Groves
2024-02-26 12:51 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 21:47 ` John Groves
2024-02-27 10:34 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-27 17:48 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 10/20] famfs: famfs_open_device() & dax_holder_operations John Groves
2024-02-26 12:56 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 22:22 ` John Groves
2024-02-27 13:39 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-27 18:38 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 11/20] famfs: Add fs_context_operations John Groves
2024-02-26 13:20 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 22:43 ` John Groves
2024-02-27 13:41 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-28 0:59 ` John Groves
2024-02-28 1:49 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-02-28 8:17 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-28 10:07 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-28 12:01 ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 12/20] famfs: Add inode_operations and file_system_type John Groves
2024-02-26 13:25 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 22:53 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 13/20] famfs: Add iomap_ops John Groves
2024-02-26 13:30 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 23:00 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 14/20] famfs: Add struct file_operations John Groves
2024-02-26 13:32 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-26 23:09 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:41 ` [RFC PATCH 15/20] famfs: Add ioctl to file_operations John Groves
2024-02-26 13:44 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-23 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH 16/20] famfs: Add fault counters John Groves
2024-02-23 18:23 ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-23 19:56 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 20:04 ` Dan Williams
2024-02-23 20:39 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 21:19 ` Dave Hansen
2024-02-23 23:50 ` Dan Williams
2024-02-24 3:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-24 4:30 ` Dan Williams
2024-02-23 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH 17/20] famfs: Add module stuff John Groves
2024-02-26 13:47 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-27 22:15 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH 18/20] famfs: Support character dax via the dev_dax_iomap patch John Groves
2024-02-26 13:52 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-02-27 22:27 ` John Groves
2024-02-23 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH 19/20] famfs: Update MAINTAINERS file John Groves
2024-02-23 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH 20/20] famfs: Add Kconfig and Makefile plumbing John Groves
2024-02-24 1:50 ` Randy Dunlap
2024-02-24 2:24 ` John Groves
2024-02-24 0:07 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Introduce the famfs shared-memory file system Luis Chamberlain
2024-02-26 13:27 ` John Groves
2024-02-26 15:53 ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-02-26 21:16 ` John Groves
2024-02-27 0:58 ` Luis Chamberlain
2024-02-27 2:05 ` John Groves
2024-02-29 2:15 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-29 14:52 ` John Groves
2024-03-11 1:29 ` Dave Chinner
2024-02-29 6:52 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-02-29 22:16 ` John Groves
2024-05-17 9:55 ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2024-05-19 5:59 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-05-22 2:05 ` John Groves
2024-05-22 8:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-05-22 10:16 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-05-22 11:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-05-22 13:41 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-05-23 2:49 ` John Groves
2024-05-23 13:57 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-05-24 0:47 ` John Groves
2024-05-24 7:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2024-05-25 22:54 ` Dave Chinner
2024-06-24 12:43 ` John Groves
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