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From: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, hch@lst.de, miklos@szeredi.hu,
	 brauner@kernel.org, anuj20.g@samsung.com,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,  linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, gfs2@lists.linux.dev,
	 kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/16] fuse: use iomap for buffered writes
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 15:57:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJnrk1ZhFropUE-qoXcfa4VB740quF7nkQ3cs+NNbwPTFgpLsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250702175743.GG10009@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Wed, Jul 2, 2025 at 10:57 AM Darrick J. Wong <djwong@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 10:55:09AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 07:21:31PM -0700, Joanne Koong wrote:
> > > Have buffered writes go through iomap. This has two advantages:
> > > * granular large folio synchronous reads
> > > * granular large folio dirty tracking
> > >
> > > If for example there is a 1 MB large folio and a write issued at pos 1
> > > to pos 1 MB - 2, only the head and tail pages will need to be read in
> > > and marked uptodate instead of the entire folio needing to be read in.
> > > Non-relevant trailing pages are also skipped (eg if for a 1 MB large
> > > folio a write is issued at pos 1 to 4099, only the first two pages are
> > > read in and the ones after that are skipped).
> > >
> > > iomap also has granular dirty tracking. This is useful in that when it
> > > comes to writeback time, only the dirty portions of the large folio will
> > > be written instead of having to write out the entire folio. For example
> > > if there is a 1 MB large folio and only 2 bytes in it are dirty, only
> > > the page for those dirty bytes get written out. Please note that
> > > granular writeback is only done once fuse also uses iomap in writeback
> > > (separate commit).
> > >
> > > .release_folio needs to be set to iomap_release_folio so that any
> > > allocated iomap ifs structs get freed.
> >
> > What happens in the !iomap case, which can still happen for
> > !writeback_cache filesystems?  I don't think you can call
> > iomap_release_folio, because iomap doesn't own folio->private in that
> > case.

AFAICS, there's otherwise no private data attached to the folio for
fuse for the non-writeback paths, so I don't think this is an issue.
ifs_free() would be a no-op.

>
> ...and I think the answer to that is that the !writeback_cache case
> passes all file IO directly to the fuse server and never touches the
> page cache at all?

There's two !writeback_cache cases, direct io and writethrough.
For writethrough, the file IO gets passed to the fuse server and it
also gets written to the page cache.

>
> --D
>

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-02 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-24  2:21 [PATCH v3 00/16] fuse: use iomap for buffered writes + writeback Joanne Koong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] iomap: pass more arguments using struct iomap_writepage_ctx Joanne Koong
2025-06-24  6:07   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-06-24 22:02     ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 15:57   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] iomap: cleanup the pending writeback tracking in iomap_writepage_map_blocks Joanne Koong
2025-06-24  6:09   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-07-02 15:59   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] iomap: refactor the writeback interface Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 17:13   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-03 12:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-03 16:51       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] iomap: hide ioends from the generic writeback code Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 17:38   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-03 12:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] iomap: add public helpers for uptodate state manipulation Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 17:39   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] iomap: move all ioend handling to ioend.c Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 17:40   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] iomap: rename iomap_writepage_map to iomap_writeback_folio Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 17:41   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] iomap: move folio_unlock out of iomap_writeback_folio Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 17:43   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] iomap: export iomap_writeback_folio Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 17:44   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] iomap: replace iomap_folio_ops with iomap_write_ops Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 17:48   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] iomap: add read_folio_range() handler for buffered writes Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 17:51   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] fuse: use iomap " Joanne Koong
2025-06-24 10:07   ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-06-24 21:52     ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-25 11:10   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-02 17:55   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-02 17:57     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-02 22:57       ` Joanne Koong [this message]
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] fuse: use iomap for writeback Joanne Koong
2025-06-25 14:17   ` kernel test robot
2025-06-25 16:48     ` Joanne Koong
2025-07-01 11:34       ` Christian Brauner
2025-07-02 18:13   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-02 23:20     ` Joanne Koong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] fuse: use iomap for folio laundering Joanne Koong
2025-06-25 17:02   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-02 18:14   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] fuse: hook into iomap for invalidating and checking partial uptodateness Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 18:14   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24  2:21 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] fuse: refactor writeback to use iomap_writepage_ctx inode Joanne Koong
2025-07-02 18:15   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-24 13:31 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] fuse: use iomap for buffered writes + writeback Christoph Hellwig

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