From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>, "Zach Brown" <zab@redhat.com>,
"Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Ric Wheeler" <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
"Linux FS Devel" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Chris L. Mason" <clmason@fusionio.com>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
"Alexander Viro" <aviro@redhat.com>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <mkp@mkp.net>,
"Hannes Reinecke" <hare@suse.de>,
"Joel Becker" <jlbec@evilplan.org>
Subject: Re: New copyfile system call - discuss before LSF?
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrVB_6V8nqKJ_moRN4VnV=pHRJen2iSLybAc39XbjyBFdg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130330194933.GB1005@amd.pavel.ucw.cz>
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> > I thought the first thing people would ask for is to atomically create a
>> > new file and copy the old file into it (at least on local file systems).
>> > The idea is that nothing should see an empty destination file, either
>> > by race or by crash. (This feature would perhaps be described as a
>> > pony, but it should be implementable.)
>>
>> Having already wasted many week trying to implement your pony, I would
>> consider it about as possible as winning the lottery three times in a
>> row. It clearly is in theory and yet,...
>
> Hmm, really? AFAICT it would be simple to provide open_deleted_file("directory")
> syscall. You'd open_deleted_file(), copy source file into it, then
> fsync(), then link it into filesystem.
Isn't linking a deleted file back into the filesystem explicitly
forbidden? I'm pretty sure that linking from /proc/fd/whatever
doesn't work. (I've often wanted a flink system call that takes a
file descriptor and links it somewhere. If it came with an option to
control whether it would overwrite an existing file, even better.)
--Andy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-30 22:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-21 11:37 New copyfile system call - discuss before LSF? Ric Wheeler
2013-02-21 13:37 ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-02-21 13:51 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-21 14:57 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-02-21 16:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2013-02-21 20:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-21 20:50 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-21 22:24 ` Zach Brown
2013-02-22 1:29 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-23 0:32 ` Eric Wong
2013-03-30 19:45 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-31 21:23 ` Eric Wong
2013-02-22 9:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-22 9:52 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-02-22 18:22 ` Zach Brown
2013-02-22 22:48 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-25 21:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-02-25 21:49 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-02-25 21:59 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-25 22:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-02-25 23:28 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-25 23:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-02-25 23:45 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-26 0:03 ` Zach Brown
2013-03-11 9:31 ` Joel Becker
2013-02-26 21:02 ` Jörn Engel
2013-02-26 22:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-03-30 19:49 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-30 20:08 ` Andreas Dilger
2013-03-30 21:45 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-30 21:57 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-30 23:21 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-03-31 2:53 ` Andreas Dilger
2013-03-31 3:52 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-31 4:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-03-31 4:36 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-31 4:45 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-04-01 15:49 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-31 7:36 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-31 18:27 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-31 18:32 ` openat(..., AT_UNLINKED) was " Pavel Machek
2013-03-31 18:44 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-03-31 22:50 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-31 23:14 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-03-31 23:18 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-31 23:28 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-03-31 23:41 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-31 5:38 ` AEDilger Gmail
2013-03-31 8:25 ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-31 11:48 ` Pádraig Brady
2013-03-30 22:40 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2013-02-21 22:05 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-02-21 22:13 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-22 8:47 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-02-21 18:29 ` Jeremy Allison
2013-02-22 0:29 ` Eric Wong
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