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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
	Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] make buffer_locked provide an acquire semantics
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2022 00:31:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXE-TpUGgFxBOaZbsF7k3rdHdjBoqoxZ1bvDz5AoTGADxQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yub+vPb53zt6dDpn@casper.infradead.org>

On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 at 00:14, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 04:43:08PM -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > Let's have a look at this piece of code in __bread_slow:
> >       get_bh(bh);
> >       bh->b_end_io = end_buffer_read_sync;
> >       submit_bh(REQ_OP_READ, 0, bh);
> >       wait_on_buffer(bh);
> >       if (buffer_uptodate(bh))
> >               return bh;
> > Neither wait_on_buffer nor buffer_uptodate contain a memory barrier.
> > Consequently, if someone calls sb_bread and then reads the buffer data,
> > the read of buffer data may be executed before wait_on_buffer(bh) on
> > architectures with weak memory ordering and it may return invalid data.
>
> I think we should be consistent between PageUptodate() and
> buffer_uptodate().  Here's how it's done for pages currently:
>
> static inline bool folio_test_uptodate(struct folio *folio)
>         bool ret = test_bit(PG_uptodate, folio_flags(folio, 0));
>         /*
>          * Must ensure that the data we read out of the folio is loaded
>          * _after_ we've loaded folio->flags to check the uptodate bit.
>          * We can skip the barrier if the folio is not uptodate, because
>          * we wouldn't be reading anything from it.
>          *
>          * See folio_mark_uptodate() for the other side of the story.
>          */
>         if (ret)
>                 smp_rmb();
>
>         return ret;
>
> ...
>
> static __always_inline void folio_mark_uptodate(struct folio *folio)
>         /*
>          * Memory barrier must be issued before setting the PG_uptodate bit,
>          * so that all previous stores issued in order to bring the folio
>          * uptodate are actually visible before folio_test_uptodate becomes true.
>          */
>         smp_wmb();
>         set_bit(PG_uptodate, folio_flags(folio, 0));
>
> I'm happy for these to also be changed to use acquire/release; no
> attachment to the current code.  But bufferheads & pages should have the
> same semantics, or we'll be awfully confused.

I suspect that adding acquire/release annotations at the bitops level
is not going to get us anywhere, given that for the uptodate flag, it
is the set operation that has release semantics, whereas for a lock
flag, it will be the clear operation. Reverting to the legacy barrier
instructions to try and avoid this ambiguity will likely only make
things worse.

I was cc'ed only on patch #1 of your v3, so I'm not sure where this is
headed, but I strongly +1 Matthew's point above that this should be
done at the level that defines how the bit fields should be
interpreted wrt to the contents of the data structure that they
describe/guard.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-31 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-31 11:43 [PATCH] Add a read memory barrier to wait_on_buffer Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 12:00 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 13:41   ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 15:08     ` [PATCH v2] make buffer_locked provide an acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 16:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-31 17:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-31 22:48           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-01  3:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-01 15:41           ` Will Deacon
2022-08-01 19:20             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-02  8:54               ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 13:49                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-02 15:29                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-31 20:39         ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:40           ` [PATCH v3 1/2] wait_bit: do read barrier after testing a bit Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-01 10:40               ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 10:43                 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] change buffer_locked, so that it has acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 14:37                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-01 15:01                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-05  3:22                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-07 11:37                         ` [PATCH v5] add barriers to buffer functions Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-07 14:50                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08 14:26                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-08 14:40                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-08 14:57                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-08 15:31                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-08 15:39                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-09 18:32                                     ` [PATCH v6] add barriers to buffer_uptodate and set_buffer_uptodate Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-09 19:44                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-08-09 22:06                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-08-01 10:42               ` [PATCH v4 1/2] introduce test_bit_acquire and use it in wait_on_bit Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 15:54                 ` Will Deacon
2022-08-01 16:12                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01 18:17                     ` Boqun Feng
2022-08-02  8:00                       ` David Laight
2022-08-02  8:40                     ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 11:38                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-02 13:36                         ` Will Deacon
2022-08-02 15:57                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-08-01  0:27             ` [PATCH v3 1/2] wait_bit: do read barrier after testing a bit Alan Stern
2022-07-31 20:43           ` [PATCH v3 2/2] make buffer_locked provide an acquire semantics Mikulas Patocka
2022-07-31 20:51             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-31 22:14             ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-07-31 22:31               ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2022-07-31 22:48                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-07-31 20:46           ` [PATCH v2] " Linus Torvalds

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