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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Tim Bird <Tim.Bird@sony.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 01/22] bootconfig: Add Extra Boot Config support
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 10:08:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWx4FmrGaefwkEBMGqCmJUSYxtAfkmFc7HM++fab2U-cw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191209105403.788f492a@gandalf.local.home>

Hi Steven,

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 4:55 PM Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 14:50:09 +0900
> Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 11:34:32 -0800
> > Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > On 12/2/19 2:13 AM, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/init/Kconfig b/init/Kconfig
> > > > index 67a602ee17f1..13bb3eac804c 100644
> > > > --- a/init/Kconfig
> > > > +++ b/init/Kconfig
> > > > @@ -1235,6 +1235,17 @@ source "usr/Kconfig"
> > > >
> > > >  endif
> > > >
> > > > +config BOOT_CONFIG
> > > > + bool "Boot config support"
> > > > + select LIBXBC
> > > > + default y
> > >
> > > questionable "default y".
> > > That needs lots of justification.
> >
> > OK, I can make it 'n' by default.
> >
> > I thought that was OK because most of the memories for the
> > bootconfig support were released after initialization.
> > If user doesn't pass the bootconfig, only the code for
> > /proc/bootconfig remains on runtime memory.
>
> As 'n' is usually the default, I will argue this should be 'y'!
>
> This is not some new fancy feature, or device that Linus
> complains about "my X is important!". I will say this X *is* important!
> This will (I hope) become standard in all kernel configs. One could even
> argue that there shouldn't even be a config for this at all (forced
> 'y'). This would hurt more not to have than to have. I would hate to
> try to load special options only to find out that the kernel was
> compiled with default configs and this wasn't enabled.

Let's bite ;-)

If one could even argue that there shouldn't even be a config for this
at all, then why are there two? There's a visible BOOT_CONFIG config,
and an invisible LIBXBC config.

Are there other users planned for LIBXBC?

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-06  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-02 10:13 [RFC PATCH v4 00/22] tracing: bootconfig: Boot-time tracing and Extra boot config Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:13 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/22] bootconfig: Add Extra Boot Config support Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-08 19:34   ` Randy Dunlap
2019-12-09  5:50     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-09 15:54       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-12-10 14:15         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-06  9:08         ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2020-02-06  9:41           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:13 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/22] bootconfig: Load boot config from the tail of initrd Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:13 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/22] tools: bootconfig: Add bootconfig command Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/22] tools: bootconfig: Add bootconfig test script Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/22] proc: bootconfig: Add /proc/bootconfig to show boot config list Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/22] init/main.c: Alloc initcall_command_line in do_initcall() and free it Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/22] bootconfig: init: Allow admin to use bootconfig for kernel command line Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/22] bootconfig: init: Allow admin to use bootconfig for init " Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:14 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/22] Documentation: bootconfig: Add a doc for extended boot config Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/22] tracing: Apply soft-disabled and filter to tracepoints printk Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/22] tracing: kprobes: Output kprobe event to printk buffer Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/22] tracing: kprobes: Register to dynevent earlier stage Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/22] tracing: Accept different type for synthetic event fields Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:15 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/22] tracing: Add NULL trace-array check in print_synth_event() Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/22] tracing/boot: Add boot-time tracing Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/22] tracing/boot: Add per-event settings Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 17/22] tracing/boot Add kprobe event support Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 18/22] tracing/boot: Add synthetic " Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:16 ` [RFC PATCH v4 19/22] tracing/boot: Add instance node support Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 20/22] tracing/boot: Add cpu_mask option support Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 21/22] tracing/boot: Add function tracer filter options Masami Hiramatsu
2019-12-02 10:17 ` [RFC PATCH v4 22/22] Documentation: tracing: Add boot-time tracing document Masami Hiramatsu

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