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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Zhang Tianci <zhangtianci.1997@bytedance.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Daniel Rosenberg <drosen@google.com>,
	Paul Lawrence <paullawrence@google.com>,
	Alessio Balsini <balsini@android.com>,
	fuse-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [External] [PATCH v13 08/10] fuse: update inode size/mtime after passthrough write
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 19:56:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxh6iBEik33TxBy-AewqN+hyps-a3P8qVb6nrL_cmQA9Kw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8620dfd3-372d-4ae0-aa3f-2fe97dda1bca@kernel.dk>

On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 7:19 PM Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>
> On 9/26/23 9:48 AM, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 6:31?PM Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 9/25/23 4:43 AM, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> >>> Jens,
> >>>
> >>> Are there any IOCB flags that overlayfs (or backing_aio) need
> >>> to set or clear, besides IOCB_DIO_CALLER_COMP, that
> >>> would prevent calling completion from interrupt context?
> >>
> >> There are a few flags that may get set (like WAITQ or ALLOC_CACHE), but
> >> I think that should all work ok as-is as the former is just state in
> >> that iocb and that is persistent (and only for the read path), and
> >> ALLOC_CACHE should just be propagated.
> >>
> >>> Or is the proper way to deal with this is to defer completion
> >>> to workqueue in the common backing_aio helpers that
> >>> I am re-factoring from overlayfs?
> >>
> >> No, deferring to a workqueue would defeat the purpose of the flag, which
> >> is telling you that the caller will ensure that the end_io callback will
> >> happen from task context and need not be deferred to a workqueue. I can
> >> take a peek at how to wire it up properly for overlayfs, have some
> >> travel coming up in a few days.
> >>
> >
> > No worries, this is not urgent.
> > I queued a change to overlayfs to take a spin lock on completion
> > for the 6.7 merge window, so if I can get a ACK/NACK until then
> > It would be nice.
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-unionfs/20230912173653.3317828-2-amir73il@gmail.com/
>
> That's not going to work for ovl_copyattr(), as ->ki_complete() may very
> well be called from interrupt context in general.
>
> >>> IIUC, that could also help overlayfs support
> >>> IOCB_DIO_CALLER_COMP?
> >>>
> >>> Is my understanding correct?
> >>
> >> If you peek at fs.h and find the CALLER_COMP references, it'll tell you
> >> a bit about how it works. This is new with the 6.6-rc kernel, there's a
> >> series of patches from me that went in through the iomap tree that
> >> hooked that up. Those commits have an explanation as well.
> >>
> >
> > Sorry, I think my question wasn't clear.
> > I wasn't asking specifically about CALLER_COMP.
> >
> > Zhang Tianci commented in review (above) that I am not allowed
> > to take the inode spinlock in the ovl io completion context, because
> > it may be called from interrupt.
>
> That is correct, the inode spinlock is not IRQ safe.
>
> > I wasn't sure if his statement was correct, so this is what I am
> > asking - whether overlayfs can set any IOCB flags that will force
> > the completion to be called from task context - this is kind of the
> > opposite of CALLER_COMP.
> >
> > Let me know if I wasn't able to explain myself.
> > I am not that fluent in aio jargon.
>
> Ah gotcha. I don't think that'd really work for your case as you don't
> need to propagate it, you can just punt your completion handling to a
> context that is sane for you, like a workqueue. That is provided that
> you don't need any task context there, which presumably you don't since
> eg copyattr is already called from IRQ context.
>
> From that context you could then grab the inode lock.
>

Yes, that's what I thought.
Thanks for confirming!
Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-26 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-19 12:56 [PATCH v13 00/10] fuse: Add support for passthrough read/write Amir Goldstein
2023-05-19 12:56 ` [PATCH v13 01/10] fs: Generic function to convert iocb to rw flags Amir Goldstein
2023-05-19 12:56 ` [PATCH v13 02/10] fuse: Definitions and ioctl for passthrough Amir Goldstein
2023-05-19 15:12   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-05-20 10:20     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-05-22 14:50       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-05-24 10:00         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-05-19 12:56 ` [PATCH v13 03/10] fuse: Passthrough initialization and release Amir Goldstein
2023-05-19 12:56 ` [PATCH v13 04/10] fuse: Introduce synchronous read and write for passthrough Amir Goldstein
2023-05-19 12:57 ` [PATCH v13 05/10] fuse: Handle asynchronous read and write in passthrough Amir Goldstein
2023-05-22 15:20   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-05-24 10:03     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-08-21 15:27       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-08-22 10:18         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-08-22 11:03           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-08-22 13:22             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-08-22 14:06               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-08-24 12:11             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-08-29 12:42               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-05-19 12:57 ` [PATCH v13 06/10] fuse: Use daemon creds in passthrough mode Amir Goldstein
2023-05-19 12:57 ` [PATCH v13 07/10] fuse: Introduce passthrough for mmap Amir Goldstein
2023-05-19 12:57 ` [PATCH v13 08/10] fuse: update inode size/mtime after passthrough write Amir Goldstein
2023-09-25  6:41   ` [External] " Zhang Tianci
2023-09-25 10:43     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-26 15:31       ` Jens Axboe
2023-09-26 15:48         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-26 16:19           ` Jens Axboe
2023-09-26 16:56             ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2023-05-19 12:57 ` [PATCH v13 09/10] fuse: invalidate atime after passthrough read/mmap Amir Goldstein
2023-05-19 12:57 ` [PATCH v13 10/10] fuse: setup a passthrough fd without a permanent backing id Amir Goldstein
2023-06-06 10:22   ` Fwd: " Miklos Szeredi
2023-06-06 11:00     ` [fuse-devel] " Amir Goldstein
2023-06-06 12:46       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-05-20 10:28 ` [PATCH v13 00/10] fuse: Add support for passthrough read/write Amir Goldstein
2023-06-06  9:13 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-06  9:49   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-06-06 11:19     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-06 13:06       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-08-29 18:14         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-20 13:56           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-20 18:15             ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-21  7:33               ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-21  8:21                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-21  9:17                   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-21  9:30                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-21 10:31                       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-09-21 11:50                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-09-22 12:45                           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-08 17:53                             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-10 14:31                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-10 15:14                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-14 16:01                                   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 10:30                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-16 13:21                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-16 19:16                                   ` Bernd Schubert

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