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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Lazy file reflink
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:49:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxhf+mscvqt9VkpRDpwNJ6-gr_uQm2EMrGFGBDBZkkDbOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190131211351.GB26359@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:13 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 08:26:43AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > Really, though, for this use case it's make more sense to have "per
> > file freeze" semantics. i.e. if you want a consistent backup image
> > on snapshot capable storage, the process is usually "freeze
> > filesystem, snapshot fs, unfreeze fs, do backup from snapshot,
> > remove snapshot". We can already transparently block incoming
> > writes/modifications on files via the freeze mechanism, so why not
> > just extend that to per-file granularity so writes to the "very
> > large read-mostly file" block while it's being backed up....
> >
> > Indeed, this would probably only require a simple extension to
> > FIFREEZE/FITHAW - the parameter is currently ignored, but as defined
> > by XFS it was a "freeze level". Set this to 0xffffffff and then it
> > freezes just the fd passed in, not the whole filesystem.
> > Alternatively, FI_FREEZE_FILE/FI_THAW_FILE is simple to define...
>
> This sounds like you want a lease (aka oplock), which we already have
> implemented.

Yes, its possibly true.
I think that it could make sense to skip the reflink optimization for files that
are open for write in our workloads. I'll need to check with my peers.

Thanks,
Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-01 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-25 14:27 [LSF/MM TOPIC] Lazy file reflink Amir Goldstein
2019-01-28 12:50 ` Jan Kara
2019-01-28 21:26   ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-28 22:56     ` Amir Goldstein
2019-01-29  0:18       ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-29  7:18         ` Amir Goldstein
2019-01-29 23:01           ` Dave Chinner
2019-01-30 13:30             ` Amir Goldstein
2019-01-31 20:25               ` Chris Murphy
2019-01-31 21:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-01 13:49       ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2019-04-27 21:46         ` Amir Goldstein
2019-01-31 20:02 ` Chris Murphy

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