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From: "Jelinek, Sarah" <sarah.jelinek@intel.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@whamcloud.com>
Cc: "linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Inode metadata and file data syncing
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:44:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CC2D5D4E.1AA0D%sarah.jelinek@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3175C1A2-9231-4F77-867C-487EFA26B7C7@whamcloud.com>

I am doing a project for my company.

On 7/18/12 7:48 PM, "Andreas Dilger" <adilger@whamcloud.com> wrote:

>On 2012-07-18, at 9:53, "Jelinek, Sarah" <sarah.jelinek@intel.com> wrote:
>> I am in the process of writing a file system in Linux. This file system
>> has a separate mechanism by which we manage metadata so I do not want to
>> write the file inode metadata to disk without explicitly requesting an
>> update. I do need the file data pages to be written to disk as per the
>> normal writeback process.
>
>The first, most important, question is why are you writing a new
>filesystem for Linux?  There are lots of filesystems already, and the
>amount of effort to write a complete filesystem (instead of a simple
>filesystem with only basic functionality) is fairly high.
>
>Unless there is an overwhelmingly good reason to implement a new
>filesystem, it is better to improve some other existing filesystem to
>have the feature(s) that you are missing, instead of creating a new one.
>That helps you avoid a lot of effort, and adds value to everyone else
>that is using the existing filesystem, instead of making a niche
>filesystem only useful to yourself and needing ongoing maintenance.
>
>> If I use the common mechanism of creating an inode and inserting it into
>> the hash via insert_inode_locked(), the inode will be in the I_NEW state
>> and when the inode is marked dirty it will be put on the dirty list and
>> eventually flushed out to disk. One way I thought I could get around
>>this
>> is by initializing the inode to i_state = I_DIRTY, skipping I_NEW, and
>> using insert_inode_hash() instead, so that if mark_inode_dirty() is
>>called
>> it won't get put on the dirty list. The issue with this approach is that
>> it looks like this inode's pages will not get flushed to disk either
>>since
>> it won't ever get on the dirty list. I need the pages written just not
>>the
>> inode itself. 
>> 
>> I am handling directory inodes differently. Looking at shmem I see that
>> the backing_dev_info is set to:
>> 
>> struct backing_dev_info brnl_backing_dev_info = {
>>    .ra_pages = 0,
>>    .capabilities   = BDI_CAP_NO_ACCT_AND_WRITEBACK |
>>BDI_CAP_SWAP_BACKED,
>> };
>> 
>> 
>> I have done the same in my code to prevent directory inodes from being
>> written to disk.
>> 
>> Can I manage the inode->i_state with the I_DIRTY flag and then somehow
>> mark the inode pages dirty and add them to the dirty page list
>> independently? What I am worried about is what affect doing this will
>>have
>> on the processing of anything in page cache or inode cache related to
>>this
>> inode.
>> 
>> Thank you for your help,
>> Sarah Jelinek
>> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-19 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-18 16:53 Inode metadata and file data syncing Jelinek, Sarah
2012-07-18 17:21 ` Josef Bacik
2012-07-18 17:52   ` Jelinek, Sarah
2012-07-19  1:48 ` Andreas Dilger
2012-07-19 12:44   ` Jelinek, Sarah [this message]
2012-07-19 13:12     ` faibish_sorin
2012-07-19 13:18       ` Jelinek, Sarah
2012-07-19 13:50         ` faibish_sorin
2012-07-19 16:49           ` Zach Brown
2012-07-19 17:11             ` Andreas Dilger
2012-07-19 18:08               ` Matthew Wilcox

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