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From: "Jarkko Sakkinen" <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: "Jonathan Calmels" <jcalmels@3xx0.net>,
	"Casey Schaufler" <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: <brauner@kernel.org>, <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Joel Granados" <j.granados@samsung.com>,
	"Serge Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	<containers@lists.linux.dev>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	<keyrings@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Introduce user namespace capabilities
Date: Sat, 18 May 2024 14:08:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D1CQ1FZ72NIW.2U7ZH0GU6C5W5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vhpmew3kyay3xq4h3di3euauo43an22josvvz6assex4op3gzw@xeq63mqb2lmh>

On Fri May 17, 2024 at 10:11 PM EEST, Jonathan Calmels wrote:
> On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 10:53:24AM GMT, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> > Of course they do. I have been following the use of capabilities
> > in Linux since before they were implemented. The uptake has been
> > disappointing in all use cases.
>
> Why "Of course"?
> What if they should not get *all* privileges?

They do the job given a real-world workload and stress test.

Here the problem is based on a theory and an experiment.

Even a formal model does not necessarily map all "unknown unknowns".

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-18 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-16  9:22 [PATCH 0/3] Introduce user namespace capabilities Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-16  9:22 ` [PATCH 1/3] capabilities: " Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-16 12:27   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-16 22:07   ` John Johansen
2024-05-17 10:51     ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-17 11:59       ` John Johansen
2024-05-18  3:50         ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-18 12:27           ` John Johansen
2024-05-19  1:33             ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-17 11:32   ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-05-17 11:55     ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-17 12:48       ` John Johansen
2024-05-17 14:22       ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-05-17 18:02         ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-21 15:52         ` John Johansen
2024-05-20  3:30   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2024-05-20  3:36   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2024-05-16  9:22 ` [PATCH 2/3] capabilities: add securebit for strict userns caps Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-16 12:42   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-20  3:38   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2024-05-16  9:22 ` [PATCH 3/3] capabilities: add cap userns sysctl mask Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-16 12:44   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-20  3:38   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2024-05-20 13:30   ` Tycho Andersen
2024-05-20 19:25     ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-20 21:13       ` Tycho Andersen
2024-05-20 22:12         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-21 14:29           ` Tycho Andersen
2024-05-21 14:45             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-16 13:30 ` [PATCH 0/3] Introduce user namespace capabilities Ben Boeckel
2024-05-16 13:36   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-17 10:00     ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-16 16:23 ` Paul Moore
2024-05-16 17:18   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-16 19:07 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-05-16 19:29   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-16 19:31     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-16 20:00       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-17 11:42         ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-17 17:53           ` Casey Schaufler
2024-05-17 19:11             ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-18 11:08               ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2024-05-18 11:17                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-18 11:21                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-21 13:57                     ` John Johansen
2024-05-21 14:12                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-05-21 14:45                         ` John Johansen
2024-05-22  0:45                           ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-31  7:43                             ` John Johansen
2024-05-18 12:20             ` Serge Hallyn
2024-05-19 17:03               ` Casey Schaufler
2024-05-20  0:54                 ` Jonathan Calmels
2024-05-21 14:29               ` John Johansen

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