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From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org, dakr@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Shin'ichiro Kawasaki <shinichiro.kawasaki@wdc.com>,
	Xiao Ni <xni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] devtmpfs: don't use vfs_getattr_nosec to query i_mode
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 08:40:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D865215C-0373-464C-BB7D-235ECAF16E49@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250425133259.GA6626@lst.de>



On April 25, 2025 6:32:59 AM PDT, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
>On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 12:12:36PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
>> > That is: if dev_mynode(dev, inode) is not true some random value will be returned.
>> 
>> Don't bother resending, Christoph.
>> I've already fixed this with int err = 0 in the tree.
>
>Thanks!  Let me use this as a platform to rant about our option
>defaults and/or gcc error handling.  It seems like ever since we started
>zeroing on-stack variables by default gcc stopped warnings about using
>uninitialized on-stack variables, leading to tons of these case where
>we don't catch uninitialized variables.  Now in this and in many cases
>the code works fine because it assumed zero initialization, but there are
>also cases where it didn't, leading to new bugs.

This isn't the case: the feature was explicitly designed in both GCC and Clang to not disrupt -Wuninitialized. But -Wuninitialized has been so flakey for so long that it is almost useless (there was even -Wmaybe-uninitialized added to try to cover some of the missed diagnostics). And it's one of the many reasons stack variable zeroing is so important, since so much goes undiagnosed. :(

>Can we fix this somehow?

Fixing -Wuninitialized would be lovely, but it seems no one has been able to for years now. 😭

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-25 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-23  4:59 [PATCH] devtmpfs: don't use vfs_getattr_nosec to query i_mode Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-23  5:54 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-23  6:42   ` Greg KH
2025-04-24  8:40     ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-23  6:45 ` Heiko Carstens
2025-04-24  5:07 ` Jain, Ayush
2025-04-24  8:41 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-25 10:03 ` Heiko Carstens
2025-04-25 10:12   ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-25 13:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-25 15:40       ` Kees Cook [this message]
2025-04-25 17:17         ` Nathan Chancellor
2025-04-28 13:15         ` Christoph Hellwig

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