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From: Nikolai Joukov <kolya@cs.sunysb.edu>
To: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] RAIF: Redundant Array of Independent Filesystems
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:32:17 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.53.0612131422490.5969@compserv1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.53.0612131404510.5969@compserv1>

> > Nikolai Joukov wrote:
> > > replication.  In case of RAID4 and RAID5-like configurations, RAIF performed
> > > about two times *better* than software RAID and even better than an Adaptec
> > > 2120S RAID5 controller.  This is because RAIF is located above file system
> > > caches and can cache parity as normal data when needed.  We have more
> > > performance details in a technical report, if anyone is interested.
> >
> > This doesn't make sense to me.  You do not want to cache the parity
> > data.  It only needs to be used to validate the data blocks when the
> > stripe is read, and after that, you only want to cache the data, and
> > throw out the parity.  Caching the parity as well will pollute the cache
> > and thus, should lower performance due to more important data being
> > thrown out.
>
> This happens automatically: unused parity pages are treated as unused
> pages and get reused to cache something else.  Also, the parity
> never gets cached if you do not write the data (or recover the data).
> However, if you use the same parity page over and over you do not need to
> fetch it from the disk again.

To avoid confusion here: data recovery is not the only situation when it
is necessary to read the parity.  Existing parity is also necessary for
writes that are smaller than the page size.

Nikolai.
---------------------
Nikolai Joukov, Ph.D.
Filesystems and Storage Laboratory
Stony Brook University

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-13 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-13 17:47 [ANNOUNCE] RAIF: Redundant Array of Independent Filesystems Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-13 19:02 ` Phillip Susi
2006-12-13 19:17   ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-13 19:32     ` Nikolai Joukov [this message]
2006-12-13 19:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-13 19:57   ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-13 19:57 ` Al Boldi
2006-12-14 21:01   ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-14 21:30     ` Charles Manning
2006-12-15 16:48       ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-14 22:48     ` berk walker
2006-12-15  5:02     ` Al Boldi
2006-12-15 17:41       ` Nikolai Joukov
     [not found]         ` <200612161635.49502.a1426z@gawab.com>
2006-12-16 17:39           ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-19 17:50             ` stacked filesystem cache waste Bryan Henderson
     [not found]             ` <200612172059.07941.a1426z@gawab.com>
2006-12-23  3:21               ` [ANNOUNCE] RAIF: Redundant Array of Independent Filesystems Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-14 11:12 ` Al Boldi
2006-12-14 23:44   ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-15  5:03     ` Al Boldi
2006-12-15 18:47       ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-15 12:47 ` Ed Tomlinson
2006-12-15 20:11   ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-15 23:58     ` Ed Tomlinson
2006-12-16  0:20       ` Bryan Henderson
2006-12-16  1:20         ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-16 14:46         ` Ed Tomlinson
2006-12-16 17:57           ` Nikolai Joukov
2006-12-16  0:02 ` David Lang
2006-12-16  0:58   ` Nikolai Joukov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-15  1:13 Nikolai Joukov
     [not found] <OF582D7197.D6F604B1-ON88257248.0069CC60-88257248.006AE165@us.ibm.com>
2006-12-25 15:13 ` Nikolai Joukov
2007-01-06  5:17 Chaitanya Patti

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