From: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>"
<7eggert@gmx.de>, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
hch@infradead.org, akpm@osdl.org,
viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC] FUSE permission modell (Was: fuse review bits)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:19:44 +0100 (BST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0504122117010.26320@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050412144529.GE10995@mail.shareable.org>
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org> wrote:
> > Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org> wrote:
> > > Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> >
> > >> 4) Access should not be further restricted for the owner of the
> > >> mount, even if permission bits, uid or gid would suggest
> > >> otherwise
> > >
> > > Why? Surely you want to prevent writing to files which don't have the
> > > writable bit set? A filesystem may also create append-only files -
> > > and all users including the mount owner should be bound by that.
> >
> > That will depend on the situation. If the user is mounting a tgz owned
> > by himself, FUSE should default to being a convenient hex-editor.
>
> If the user wants to edit a read-only file in a tgz owned by himself,
> why can he not _chmod_ the file and _then_ edit it?
>
> That said, I would _usually_ prefer that when I enter a tgz, that I
> see all component files having the same uid/gid/permissions as the tgz
> file itself - the same as I'd see if I entered a zip file.
As you say _usually_, even you admit that sometimes you would want the
real owner/permissions to be shown. And that is the point Miklos is
trying to make I believe: it should be configurable not hard set to only
one which is what I understand HCH wants.
There are uses for both. For example today I was updating the tar ball
which is used to create the var file system for a new chroot. I certainly
want to see corretly setup owner/permissions when I look into that tar
ball using a FUSE fs...
Best regards,
Anton
--
Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
Unix Support, Computing Service, University of Cambridge, CB2 3QH, UK
Linux NTFS maintainer / IRC: #ntfs on irc.freenode.net
WWW: http://linux-ntfs.sf.net/ & http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/
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2005-04-12 9:17 ` [RFC] FUSE permission modell (Was: fuse review bits) Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-12 14:45 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 15:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 17:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 19:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 12:56 ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-13 15:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 16:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 16:47 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 16:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 15:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 20:19 ` Anton Altaparmakov [this message]
2005-04-12 21:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 9:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 12:59 ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-13 17:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 17:29 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-13 18:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-13 19:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
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2005-04-12 14:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 19:51 ` Bodo Eggert
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2005-04-17 23:52 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
2005-04-19 11:57 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-19 15:01 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-19 15:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-19 15:26 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-19 16:02 ` Bodo Eggert
2005-04-19 19:29 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-20 3:59 ` Mike Waychison
2005-04-20 7:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
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2005-04-20 19:52 ` Bodo Eggert <harvested.in.lkml@posting.7eggert.dyndns.org>
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2005-04-11 14:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 15:36 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 15:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 18:17 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 19:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 19:22 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 19:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-11 21:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 6:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 14:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 15:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:03 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 15:16 ` Frank Sorenson
2005-04-12 15:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-17 17:45 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-17 18:06 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 20:36 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2005-04-11 22:13 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-12 6:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 14:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 14:59 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:37 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:45 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 16:52 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 17:14 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-12 19:10 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-12 16:42 ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-12 8:06 ` Jan Hudec
2005-04-11 18:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2005-04-11 18:27 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-04-11 19:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-17 18:01 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-04-17 18:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-04-17 19:57 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
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