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From: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
To: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
Cc: Grzegorz Kulewski <kangur@polcom.net>,
	Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@ftp.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/20] Mount writer count and read-only bind mounts (v2)
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 11:36:35 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0606171135560.15799@yvahk01.tjqt.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060617033531.GA25823@MAIL.13thfloor.at>

>> >I assume you're talking about this kind of situation:
>> >
>> >mount --bind /local/writable/dir /chroot/untrusted/area/
>> >mount --o remount,ro /chroot/untrusted/area/
>> 
>> Well, actually about some kind of VPS: openvz or something like that.
>> But yes, this is the same kind of scenario.
>
>yes, Linux-VServer provides this kind of ro --bind mounts
>without the race, as the the flags are passed on the actual
>mount
>
>> >This has no r/w window in the chroot area:
>> >
>> >mount --bind /local/writable/dir /tmp/area/
>> >mount --o remount,ro /tmp/area/
>> >mount --bind /tmp/area/ /chroot/untrusted/area/
>> >umount /tmp/area/
>> 
>> Well, it looks a little scarry and complicated at first. And probably
>> requires you to know that semantic of --bind lets you do the last
>> unmount. But if you are saying that this makes kernel smaller, faster
>> and less buggy then you are probably very right.
>
>well, it makes the kernel more consistant in it's behaviour,
>because especially for --rbind mounts, the logic what is
>changed where and when is not as well defined as one would
>wish ...
>
>btw, you could get the same result by simply doing:
>
>mount --bind /local/writable/dir /tmp/area/
>mount --o remount,ro /tmp/area/
>mount --move /tmp/area/ /chroot/untrusted/area/
>

Just a nitpick, you all use "--o" ... :)
mount: option `--o' is ambiguous




Jan Engelhardt
-- 

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-17  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-16 23:12 [RFC][PATCH 00/20] Mount writer count and read-only bind mounts (v2) Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/20] prepare for write access checks: collapse if() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/20] r/o bind mount prepwork: move open_namei()'s vfs_create() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/20] Add vfsmount writer count Dave Hansen
2006-06-18 18:33   ` Al Viro
2006-06-19 17:02     ` Dave Hansen
2006-06-20 21:20       ` Al Viro
2006-06-22 17:01         ` Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/20] elevate mnt writers for callers of vfs_mkdir() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/20] elevate write count during entire ncp_ioctl() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/20] elevate mount count for extended attributes Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/20] sys_symlinkat() elevate write count around vfs_symlink() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/20] sys_linkat(): elevate write count around vfs_link() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/20] mount_is_safe(): add comment Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/20] unix_find_other() elevate write count for touch_atime() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/20] elevate write count over calls to vfs_rename() Dave Hansen
2006-06-18 18:23   ` Al Viro
2006-06-19 17:18     ` Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/20] tricky: elevate write count files are open()ed Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/20] elevate writer count for do_sys_truncate() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/20] elevate write count for do_utimes() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 15/20] elevate write count for do_sys_utime() and touch_atime() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 16/20] sys_mknodat(): elevate write count for vfs_mknod/create() Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 17/20] elevate mnt writers for vfs_unlink() callers Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 18/20] do_rmdir(): elevate write count Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 19/20] elevate writer count for custom 'struct file' Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 20/20] honor r/w changes at do_remount() time Dave Hansen
2006-06-18 18:36   ` Al Viro
2006-06-19 16:45     ` Dave Hansen
2006-06-16 23:29 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/20] Mount writer count and read-only bind mounts (v2) Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-06-16 23:41   ` Dave Hansen
2006-06-17  0:10     ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-06-17  3:35       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-06-17  9:36         ` Jan Engelhardt [this message]
2006-06-17 13:29           ` Herbert Poetzl

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