From: raven@themaw.net
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: mike@waychison.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
jamie@shareable.org, viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/8] namespace: use global namespace semaphore
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:13:00 +0800 (WST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0506041159470.1619@donald.themaw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1De4j1-0002ui-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This way the autofs mount won't be followed by the mount program,
> > > > > since looking up '.' does not follow mounts.
> > > >
> > > > But a path walk must be carried out in order to set pwd (or
> > > > chroot), at which time the mount is carried out and remains busy
> > > > due to the reference that is held.
> > >
> > > Huh? Path walk of '.' will do nothing. It does not follow mounts or
> > > anything.
> >
> > Does "chdir ." make sense. Looks a bit like a noop to me. Surely if
> > your current working directory is "." you've had to set it with a
> > provided path at some point.
>
> OK, sorry, I misunderstood you.
>
> But still I don't see why it is a problem if you have a reference to
> the mountpoint dentry/vfsmount. You already have a reference with the
> mounted autofs, so adding another reference by opening a file, and
> another by changing cwd to it won't change anything at all.
I think we`ve lost track of what we originally started discussing here.
I think we started discussing why I needed the nameidata struct to be upto
date when the follow link method was called, it simply isn't when a mount
is followed at the end of the do_lookup call in link_path_walk.
>
> > > So for direct mounts, the sibling mount (as opposed to the overmount)
> > > has the advantage of not having to do ugly recursion checking hacks in
> > > autofs.
> >
> > I've found that all I really need to do is check that the follow_mount is
> > successful and respond accordingly.
>
> I don't see how that would work.
Seems to work fine so far.
>
> Don't you have to somehow special-case the mount program to allow that
> to succeed in path lookup, but make all other lookups block until the
> mount is finished?
I haven't found that to be the case. There are a couple of mechanisms for
this.
First is a in kernel module waitq for daemon notification that has been
well tested over time. I've done quite a bit of work on the interaction
between expire events and lookups. There are still a couple of patches I
need to submit but it's getting there.
Second the user space daemon is implemented as an FSM which implies a
considerable amount of serialisation wrt kernel communication through the
pipe.
Ian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-04 4:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-30 13:19 [RFC][PATCH 1/8] namespace: use global namespace semaphore Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-31 2:58 ` Ian Kent
2005-05-31 3:23 ` Mike Waychison
2005-05-31 7:02 ` Ian Kent
2005-05-31 7:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-31 9:34 ` Ian Kent
2005-05-31 10:05 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-31 10:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-31 15:43 ` Mike Waychison
2005-06-01 5:04 ` Ian Kent
2005-06-01 8:35 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-03 2:10 ` Ian Kent
2005-06-03 5:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-04 4:13 ` raven [this message]
2005-06-04 6:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-04 6:50 ` raven
2005-06-04 7:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-04 7:27 ` raven
2005-06-03 17:22 ` Mike Waychison
2005-06-04 4:32 ` raven
2005-06-03 17:13 ` Mike Waychison
2005-06-03 18:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-01 4:36 ` Ian Kent
2005-06-03 17:24 ` Mike Waychison
2005-06-04 4:38 ` raven
2005-05-31 15:55 ` Mike Waychison
2005-05-31 16:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-01 4:18 ` Ian Kent
2005-06-01 8:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-03 2:23 ` Ian Kent
2005-06-03 5:18 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-04 4:53 ` raven
2005-06-04 6:57 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-04 7:13 ` raven
2005-06-03 17:26 ` Mike Waychison
2005-06-01 3:57 ` Ian Kent
2005-06-03 17:07 ` Mike Waychison
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