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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
	mpm@selenic.com, "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 21/21] slab defrag: Obsolete SLAB
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:53:57 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805141444220.19897@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080514214326.GF9921@parisc-linux.org>

On Wed, 14 May 2008, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> > Oh. The last message I got was an enthusiatic report on the performance 
> > gains you saw by pinning the process after we looked at slub statistics 
> > that showed that the behavior of the tests was different from your 
> > expectations. I got messages here that indicate that this was a scsi 
> > testing program that you had under development. And yes we saw the remote 
> > freeing degradations there.
> 
> What I said was:
> 
> : I've also been playing around with locking the scsi_ram_0 thread to
> : one CPU and it has a huge effect on the numbers.
> 
> : So we can see that scsi_ram_0 is clearly wandering between the two
> : CPUs normally; it takes up a significant (3 seconds ~= 7-8%) of the
> : execution time, and that locking it to one CPU (which interrupts tend
> : to be) improves the number of ops per second ... even of the CPU which
> : is forced to take all the extra work of running it!


The last message that I got on March 31st said:

>>I have a version below which tries to start the tasks at a similar time
>by using pause() and then signalling to wake all the tasks up.  I don't
>?know a better way to start threads simultaneously ... maybe MAP_SHARED a
>file and write to it in one task while spinning in the other tasks
>waiting for it to change value?

>I've also been playing around with locking the scsi_ram_0 thread to one
>CPU and it has a huge effect on the numbers.

This indicated to me that you were still developing a test here and 
discovered some startling things.

> Note the complete lack of comparison between slub and slab here!  As far
> as I know, slub still loses against slab by a few % -- but I haven't
> finished running a comparison with -rc2 yet.

Indeed remote frees are slightly slower in some situations. Dont really 
dispute that. I am just not sure that the TPC test is really suffering 
from that symptom. I thought for a long time that the tbench regression 
was due to a similar effect too until I got down to it.

> I thought you'd already run this test and were asking for the results of
> this to be validated against a real TPC run.

AFAICT the last state was that you were tinkering around with a test.

> I'm rather annoyed by this.  You demand a test-case to reproduce the
> problem and then when I come up with one, you ignore it!

Ignore it? That is pretty strange statement given that I helped you 
analyze the behavior of your test and understand what was going on the 
system.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-14 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-10  3:08 [patch 00/21] Slab Fragmentation Reduction V12 Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 01/21] slub: Add defrag_ratio field and sysfs support Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 02/21] slub: Replace ctor field with ops field in /sys/slab/* Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 03/21] slub: Add get() and kick() methods Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 04/21] slub: Sort slab cache list and establish maximum objects for defrag slabs Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 05/21] slub: Slab defrag core Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 06/21] slub: Add KICKABLE to avoid repeated kick() attempts Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 07/21] slub: Extend slabinfo to support -D and -F options Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 08/21] slub: add defrag statistics Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 09/21] slub: Trigger defragmentation from memory reclaim Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 10/21] buffer heads: Support slab defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-12  0:24   ` David Chinner
2008-05-15 17:42     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 23:10       ` David Chinner
2008-05-16 17:01         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-19  5:45           ` David Chinner
2008-05-19 16:44             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-20  0:25               ` David Chinner
2008-05-20  6:56                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-20 21:46                   ` David Chinner
2008-05-20 22:25                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-20 23:19                       ` David Chinner
2008-05-20 23:28                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21  6:15                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-21  6:24                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 17:52                               ` iput() in reclaim context Hugh Dickins
2008-05-21 17:58                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-21 18:12                                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-20 23:22                       ` [patch 10/21] buffer heads: Support slab defrag Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-20 23:30                         ` David Chinner
2008-05-21  6:20                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-21  1:56                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-20 22:53             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 11/21] inodes: Support generic defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 12/21] Filesystem: Ext2 filesystem defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 13/21] Filesystem: Ext3 " Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 14/21] Filesystem: Ext4 " Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 15/21] Filesystem: XFS slab defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  6:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 16/21] Filesystem: /proc filesystem support for slab defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 17/21] Filesystem: Slab defrag: Reiserfs support Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 18/21] Filesystem: Socket inode defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-13 13:28   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-15 17:40     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:23       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 19/21] dentries: Add constructor Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 20/21] dentries: dentry defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 21/21] slab defrag: Obsolete SLAB Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  9:53   ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-11  2:15     ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-12  7:38       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-05-12  7:54         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-12 10:08           ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-12 10:23             ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-14 17:30               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 17:29           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 17:49             ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-14 18:03               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 18:18                 ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-14 19:21                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 19:49                     ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-14 20:33                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:02                         ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-14 21:26                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:54                             ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-15 17:15                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15  3:26                 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-05-15 17:05                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 17:49                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 17:58                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:13                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 18:43                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:51                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 19:09                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 19:29                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 20:14                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 20:30                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-16 19:17                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-16 19:06                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:19                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-05-15 18:29                       ` Vegard Nossum
2008-05-16  5:16                     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-05-14 18:05               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 20:46                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 20:58                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 21:00                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:21                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 21:33                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:43                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 21:53                             ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2008-05-14 22:00                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 22:32                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 22:34                                 ` Christoph Lameter

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