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From: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>,
	mpm@selenic.com
Subject: Re: [patch 21/21] slab defrag: Obsolete SLAB
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:09:06 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0805151153440.20201@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080515185130.GR9921@parisc-linux.org>

On Thu, 15 May 2008, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> Or possibly your assumptions have been the main factor.  I gave you a
> reproducer for this problem 6 weeks ago.  As far as I can tell, you
> haven't run it since.

Assumptions may be the issue. My own "reproducer" for remote frees is 
available from my git tree and I usually prefer to run my own. We 
discussed the results of that program last fall. You stated yesterday that 
your code is proprietary. I am not sure what I am allowed to do with the 
code. I did not know that it was proprietary before yesterday and I would 
have just forwarded that code to Pekka yesterday if I would not have 
caught that message in time.

I thought that what you provided it was a test program to exercise 
and optimize the scsi subsystem?

> > > > You could just start with 2.6.25.X which already contains the slab 
> > > > statistics.
> > > 
> > > Certainly.  Exactly how does collecting these stats work?  Am I supposed
> > > to zero the counters after the TPC has done its initial ramp-up?  What
> > > commands should I run, and at exactly which points?
> > 
> > Compile slabinfo and then do f.e. slabinfo -AD (this is documented in the 
> > help text provided when enabling statistics).
> 
> That's an utterly unhelpful answer.  Let me try asking again.
> 
> Exactly how does collecting these stats work?  Am I supposed to zero
> the counters after the TPC has done its initial ramp-up?  What commands
> should I run, and at exactly which points?

There is no way of zeroing the counters. Run slabinfo -AD after the 
test application has been running for awhile. If you want a differential 
then you have to take two datapoints.
 
> Otherwise I'll get something wrong and these numbers will be useless to
> you.  Or that's what you'll claim anyway.

No. I guess I will end up with a lot of guess work of what is going on on 
the system since the information is limited for some reason.

> For reference the helptext says:
> 
>           SLUB statistics are useful to debug SLUBs allocation behavior in
>           order find ways to optimize the allocator. This should never be
>           enabled for production use since keeping statistics slows down
>           the allocator by a few percentage points. The slabinfo command
>           supports the determination of the most active slabs to figure
>           out which slabs are relevant to a particular load.
>           Try running: slabinfo -DA
> 
> By the way, when you say 'compile slabinfo', you mean the file shipped
> as Documentation/vm/slabinfo.c (rather than, say, something out of tree?)

Yes. 

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-15 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-10  3:08 [patch 00/21] Slab Fragmentation Reduction V12 Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 01/21] slub: Add defrag_ratio field and sysfs support Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 02/21] slub: Replace ctor field with ops field in /sys/slab/* Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 03/21] slub: Add get() and kick() methods Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 04/21] slub: Sort slab cache list and establish maximum objects for defrag slabs Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 05/21] slub: Slab defrag core Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 06/21] slub: Add KICKABLE to avoid repeated kick() attempts Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 07/21] slub: Extend slabinfo to support -D and -F options Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 08/21] slub: add defrag statistics Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 09/21] slub: Trigger defragmentation from memory reclaim Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 10/21] buffer heads: Support slab defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-12  0:24   ` David Chinner
2008-05-15 17:42     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 23:10       ` David Chinner
2008-05-16 17:01         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-19  5:45           ` David Chinner
2008-05-19 16:44             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-20  0:25               ` David Chinner
2008-05-20  6:56                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-20 21:46                   ` David Chinner
2008-05-20 22:25                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-20 23:19                       ` David Chinner
2008-05-20 23:28                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21  6:15                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-21  6:24                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-21 17:52                               ` iput() in reclaim context Hugh Dickins
2008-05-21 17:58                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-21 18:12                                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-20 23:22                       ` [patch 10/21] buffer heads: Support slab defrag Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-20 23:30                         ` David Chinner
2008-05-21  6:20                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-21  1:56                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-20 22:53             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 11/21] inodes: Support generic defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 12/21] Filesystem: Ext2 filesystem defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 13/21] Filesystem: Ext3 " Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 14/21] Filesystem: Ext4 " Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 15/21] Filesystem: XFS slab defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  6:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 16/21] Filesystem: /proc filesystem support for slab defrag Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 17/21] Filesystem: Slab defrag: Reiserfs support Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 18/21] Filesystem: Socket inode defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-13 13:28   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-15 17:40     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:23       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 19/21] dentries: Add constructor Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 20/21] dentries: dentry defragmentation Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  3:08 ` [patch 21/21] slab defrag: Obsolete SLAB Christoph Lameter
2008-05-10  9:53   ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-11  2:15     ` Rik van Riel
2008-05-12  7:38       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2008-05-12  7:54         ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-12 10:08           ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-12 10:23             ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-14 17:30               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 17:29           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 17:49             ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-14 18:03               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 18:18                 ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-14 19:21                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 19:49                     ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-14 20:33                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:02                         ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-14 21:26                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:54                             ` Matt Mackall
2008-05-15 17:15                               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15  3:26                 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-05-15 17:05                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 17:49                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 17:58                       ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:13                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 18:43                           ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:51                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 19:09                               ` Christoph Lameter [this message]
2008-05-15 19:29                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 20:14                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-15 20:30                                     ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-16 19:17                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-16 19:06                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-15 18:19                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-05-15 18:29                       ` Vegard Nossum
2008-05-16  5:16                     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2008-05-14 18:05               ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 20:46                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 20:58                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 21:00                     ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:21                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 21:33                         ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 21:43                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 21:53                             ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 22:00                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-05-14 22:32                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2008-05-14 22:34                                 ` Christoph Lameter

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