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From: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Joe Malicki <jmalicki@metacarta.com>,
	Michael Itz <mitz@metacarta.com>,
	Kenneth Baker <bakerk@metacarta.com>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Q: check_unsafe_exec() races (Was: [PATCH 2/4] fix setuid sometimes doesn't)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:18:11 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0904011207400.8870@blonde.anvils> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090401023849.GW28946@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Al Viro wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 01:28:01AM +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>  
> > Otherwise it looks good to me, except I keep worrying about those
> > EAGAINs.  The more so once I noticed current->cred_exec_mutex is
> > already being used to handle a similar issue with ptrace.  What
> > do you think of this rather smaller patch?  which I'd much rather
> > send after having slept on it, since it may be embarrassingly and
> > obviously wrong, but tomorrow may be too late ...
>  
> Eh...  I'm not particulary happy with fork() growing heavier and heavier.

I don't see it as making fork() any heavier, but never mind.
The important thing is to get a fix out.

> Besides, there's a subtle problem avoided by another variant - think what
> happens if past the point of no return execve() will unshare fs_struct
> (e.g. by explicit unshare() from dynamic linker).

You're too far ahead of me there.

> 
> Frankly, -EAGAIN in situation when we have userland race is fine.  And
> we *do* have a userland race here - execve() will kill -9 those threads
> in case of success, so if they'd been doing something useful, they are
> about to be suddenly screwed.

Good point.  I found it quite odd the way the awkward case (shared
beyond the threadgroup) is allowed to go forward (with possibility
that setuid will be undone), but the easy case is -EAGAINed.  (And
I gave up on trying to find a better name for your "in_exec" flag,
which is rather more subtle than just that!)  But odd as it is,
there's good reason for doing it that way.

> 
> So I stand by my variant.

Fair enough.

> Note that if we have *other* tasks sharing
> fs_struct, your variant will block their clone() for the duration of
> execve() while mine will simply leave them alone (and accept that we
> have unsafe sharing).

Yes, intentional, consistent with the existing cred_exec_mutex technique.

Hugh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-01 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-28 23:16 [PATCH 1/4] compat_do_execve should unshare_files Hugh Dickins
2009-03-28 23:20 ` [PATCH 2/4] fix setuid sometimes doesn't Hugh Dickins
2009-03-29  0:53   ` Q: check_unsafe_exec() races (Was: [PATCH 2/4] fix setuid sometimes doesn't) Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-29  4:10     ` Al Viro
2009-03-29  4:14       ` Al Viro
2009-03-29  4:52       ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-29  5:55         ` Al Viro
2009-03-29  6:01           ` Al Viro
2009-03-29 21:36             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-29 22:20               ` Al Viro
2009-03-29 23:56                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-30  0:03                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-30  1:08                     ` Al Viro
2009-03-30  1:13                       ` Al Viro
2009-03-30  1:36                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-30  1:40                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-30 12:31                             ` Al Viro
2009-03-30 14:32                               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-03-31  6:16                                 ` Al Viro
2009-04-01  0:28                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-01  2:38                                     ` Al Viro
2009-04-01  3:03                                       ` Al Viro
2009-04-01 11:25                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-06 15:31                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-19 16:30                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-21 16:10                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-21 16:31                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-21 17:15                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-21 17:35                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-21 19:39                                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-23 23:01                                                       ` [PATCH 1/2] do_execve() must not clear fs->in_exec if it was set by another thread Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-23 23:18                                                         ` Roland McGrath
2009-04-23 23:31                                                         ` Al Viro
2009-04-24 11:57                                                           ` [PATCH 3/2] check_unsafe_exec: rcu_read_unlock Hugh Dickins
2009-04-24 14:34                                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-24  4:20                                                         ` [PATCH 1/2] do_execve() must not clear fs->in_exec if it was set by another thread Hugh Dickins
2009-04-23 23:02                                                       ` [PATCH 2/2] check_unsafe_exec: s/lock_task_sighand/rcu_read_lock/ Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-23 23:18                                                         ` Roland McGrath
2009-04-24  4:29                                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-01 11:18                                       ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2009-04-06 15:51                                       ` Q: check_unsafe_exec() races (Was: [PATCH 2/4] fix setuid sometimes doesn't) Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-19 16:44                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-04-21 16:39                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-30 23:45                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-31  6:19                                 ` Al Viro
2009-03-28 23:21 ` [PATCH 3/4] fix setuid sometimes wouldn't Hugh Dickins
2009-03-29 11:19   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-29 21:48     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-03-29 22:37       ` Al Viro
2009-03-28 23:23 ` [PATCH 4/4] Annotate struct fs_struct's usage count restriction Hugh Dickins

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