From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Jeff Chua <jeff.chua.linux@gmail.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce a method to catch mmap_region (was: Recent kernel "mount" slow)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:29:40 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1211281540200.5283@file.rdu.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyXS0nkDB95c3pcdg1ctrNnUGO8aDuRNhKSEg3JrOqWhA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > mmap() is in *no* way special. The exact same thing happens for
> > regular read/write. Yet somehow the mmap code is special-cased, while
> > the normal read-write code is not.
>
> I just double-checked, because it's been a long time since I actually
> looked at the code.
>
> But yeah, block device read/write uses the pure page cache functions.
> IOW, it has the *exact* same IO engine as mmap() would have.
>
> So here's my suggestion:
>
> - get rid of *all* the locking in aio_read/write and the splice paths
> - get rid of all the stupid mmap games
>
> - instead, add them to the functions that actually use
> "blkdev_get_block()" and "blkdev_get_blocks()" and nowhere else.
>
> That's a fairly limited number of functions:
> blkdev_{read,write}page(), blkdev_direct_IO() and
> blkdev_write_{begin,end}()
>
> Doesn't that sounds simpler? And more logical: it protects the actual
> places that use the block size of the device.
>
> I dunno. Maybe there is some fundamental reason why the above is
> broken, but it seems to be a much simpler approach. Sure, you need to
> guarantee that the people who get the write-lock cannot possibly cause
> IO while holding it, but since the only reason to get the write lock
> would be to change the block size, that should be pretty simple, no?
>
> Yeah, yeah, I'm probably missing something fundamental, but the above
> sounds like the simple approach to fixing things. Aiming for having
> the block size read-lock be taken by the things that pass in the
> block-size itself.
>
> It would be nice for things to be logical and straightforward.
>
> Linus
The problem with this approach is that it is very easy to miss points
where it is assumed that the block size doesn't change - and if you miss a
point, it results in a hidden bug that has a little possibility of being
found.
For example, __block_write_full_page and __block_write_begin do
if (!page_has_buffers(page)) { create_empty_buffers... }
and then they do
WARN_ON(bh->b_size != blocksize)
err = get_block(inode, block, bh, 1)
... so if the buffers were left over from some previous call to
create_empty_buffers with a different blocksize, that WARN_ON is trigged.
And it's not only a harmless warning - now bh->b_size is left set to the
old block size, but bh->b_blocknr is set to a number, that was calculated
according to the new block size - and when you submit that buffer with
submit_bh, it is written to the wrong place!
Now, prove that there are no more bugs like this.
Locking the whole read/write/mmap operations is crude, but at least it can
be done without thorough review of all the memory management code.
Mikulas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-28 21:29 UTC|newest]
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2012-11-20 18:09 ` Recent kernel "mount" slow Jan Kara
2012-11-21 15:46 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-22 14:30 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-22 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-23 13:24 ` Jens Axboe
2012-11-23 22:21 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-23 23:31 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-23 23:48 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-24 21:09 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-24 23:23 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-27 5:57 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-27 7:38 ` Jens Axboe
2012-11-27 7:44 ` Jens Axboe
2012-11-27 8:45 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-27 10:06 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-27 12:33 ` Jens Axboe
2012-11-28 3:57 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 8:33 ` Jens Axboe
2012-11-28 13:05 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-28 17:25 ` [PATCH] Introduce a method to catch mmap_region (was: Recent kernel "mount" slow) Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 19:43 ` Al Viro
2012-11-28 19:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 22:01 ` [PATCH v2] Do a proper locking for mmap and block size change Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-29 17:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 18:23 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-29 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 19:15 ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 19:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 19:48 ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 20:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 20:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 21:29 ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 22:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 22:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-30 1:16 ` Chris Mason
2012-11-30 2:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-30 2:27 ` Chris Mason
2012-11-30 2:49 ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-30 14:31 ` Chris Mason
2012-11-30 16:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-30 16:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-30 22:40 ` Dave Chinner
2012-11-30 23:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-11-29 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 19:50 ` [PATCH] Introduce a method to catch mmap_region (was: Recent kernel "mount" slow) Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 22:10 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 21:29 ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2012-11-28 22:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 1:20 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-29 0:38 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-29 2:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 2:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 6:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 6:25 ` Al Viro
2012-11-29 6:30 ` Al Viro
2012-11-29 6:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 6:45 ` Al Viro
2012-11-29 10:57 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-29 6:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 14:12 ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 17:26 ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-29 17:51 ` Chris Mason
2012-11-29 18:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-28 3:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] percpu-rwsem: use synchronize_sched_expedited Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 4:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] block_dev: don't take the write lock if block size doesn't change Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 14:24 ` Jeff Chua
2012-11-28 22:03 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-28 14:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] percpu-rwsem: use synchronize_sched_expedited Jeff Chua
2012-11-30 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30 3:00 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-11-30 13:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-30 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
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