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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] block: Add support for bouncing pinned pages
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:22:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/MRqLbA2g7I0xgp@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230216123316.vkmtucazg33vidzg@quack3>

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 01:33:16PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> I'm a bit skeptical we can reasonably assess that (as much as I would love
> to just not write these pages and be done with it) because a lot of
> FOLL_LONGTERM users just pin passed userspace address range, then allow
> userspace to manipulate it with other operations, and finally unpin it with
> another call. Who knows whether shared pagecache pages are passed in and
> what userspace is doing with them while they are pinned? 

True.

So what other sensible thing could we do at a higher level?

Treat MAP_SHARED buffers that are long term registered as MAP_PRIVATE
while registered, and just do writeback using in-kernel O_DIRECT on
fsync?

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-20  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-09 12:31 [PATCH RFC 0/5] Writeback handling of pinned pages Jan Kara
2023-02-09 12:31 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: Do not reclaim private data from pinned page Jan Kara
2023-02-09 16:17   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-10 11:29     ` Jan Kara
2023-02-13  9:55       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-02-14 13:06         ` Jan Kara
2023-02-14 21:40           ` John Hubbard
2023-02-16 11:56             ` Jan Kara
2023-02-13  9:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 13:00     ` Jan Kara
2023-02-09 12:31 ` [PATCH 2/5] ext4: Drop workaround for mm reclaiming fs private page data Jan Kara
2023-02-09 12:31 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: Do not try to write pinned folio during memory cleaning writeback Jan Kara
2023-02-10  1:54   ` John Hubbard
2023-02-10  2:10     ` John Hubbard
2023-02-10 10:42       ` Jan Kara
2023-02-10 10:54     ` Jan Kara
2023-02-09 12:31 ` [PATCH 4/5] block: Add support for bouncing pinned pages Jan Kara
2023-02-13  9:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-02-14 13:56     ` Jan Kara
2023-02-15  4:59       ` Dave Chinner
2023-02-15  6:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-02-16 12:33           ` Jan Kara
2023-02-20  6:22             ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2023-02-27 11:39               ` Jan Kara
2023-02-27 13:36                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-02-09 12:31 ` [PATCH 5/5] iomap: Bounce pinned pages during writeback Jan Kara

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